Please lift glamour restrictions!

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Would you prefer they do away with the glamour system entirely then? Releasing tons of Lv1 items to be used for glams IS SE showing some leniency. Those bikinis, sailor suits, reindeer costumes and so forth don't belong to any specific role, job, or gender. That is why you can glam them. If you want to look silly in the role you choose, they HAVE given you this freedom. It's a different story when you want to start to use glams to make yourself appear to be a role you are currently not playing.

Diversity is not a bad thing, and freedom to do whatever you want isn't always a good thing. I believe the time and energy of the devs is better placed on improving the glam system in the areas that it is the most troublesome. Currently those issues involve inflated armories, and not being able to give multiple jobs of a particular role different looks when unique pieces are the optimal build for the current level.

Actually, I would very much fancy they do away with the current glamour system and adopt a wardrobe feature similar to most other MMOs. I'll admit, the removal of glamour crystal levels makes things far less cumbersome, but it's still an archaic system overall.

Anywho, the point was illustrate their very stance is immediately contradicted by this allowance. I do agree this needn't be first on the list of glamour improvement. That was even my initial post in this thread: let us have different glamours for each job even if they share gear. That doesn't mean this isn't worth adding to list. If they're going to allow bikinis, then just let us glamour whatever. The artifact gear? Sure. That is iconic to the jobs from Final Fantasy's history. I have no real issue with it staying unique. Everything else ought to be fair game.

[Gemina]

Actually, I would very much fancy they do away with the current glamour system and adopt a wardrobe feature similar to most other MMOs. I'll admit, the removal of glamour crystal levels makes things far less cumbersome, but it's still an archaic system overall.

Anywho, the point was illustrate their very stance is immediately contradicted by this allowance. I do agree this needn't be first on the list of glamour improvement. That was even my initial post in this thread: let us have different glamours for each job even if they share gear. That doesn't mean this isn't worth adding to list. If they're going to allow bikinis, then just let us glamour whatever. The artifact gear? Sure. That is iconic to the jobs from Final Fantasy's history. I have no real issue with it staying unique. Everything else ought to be fair game.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. But sorry, I just don't feel that because you can tank in a bikini that you should also be able to tank in a healer's set of gear. Again, the bikini isn't specific to anything, while the healer's set is and it just doesn't make any sense to me to take away healthy diversity for the sake of freedom in a game. Many options are available for each role as is, and this is further expanded if you farm dungeons/raids/trials for drops you cannot buy, and if that is not your flavour of tea, then you can look towards the Lv1 options and crafting/gathering sets that are not restricted, which is most of them.

[Lufir]

Would you prefer they do away with the glamour system entirely then? Releasing tons of Lv1 items to be used for glams IS SE showing some leniency. Those bikinis, sailor suits, reindeer costumes and so forth don't belong to any specific role, job, or gender. That is why you can glam them. If you want to look silly in the role you choose, they HAVE given you this freedom. It's a different story when you want to start to use glams to make yourself appear to be a role you are currently not playing.

Diversity is not a bad thing, and freedom to do whatever you want isn't always a good thing. I believe the time and energy of the devs is better placed on improving the glam system in the areas that it is the most troublesome.

The point though, is that those level 1 glamours are casual clothes. They are generally basic shirts, coats, jackets, ponchos, dresses, and suits. None of them look like heavy armor that a Paladin might wear.

[Gemina]

The point though, is that those level 1 glamours are casual clothes. They are generally basic shirts, coats, jackets, ponchos, dresses, and suits. None of them look like heavy armor that a Paladin might wear.

That is exactly it. The exact point. They are 'casual' clothes anyone can wear. No one in their right mind would utilize them for combat as they have no stats that makes the item role specific. Role specific armours are not casual, but SE still gives us the freedom to continue to have that particular gear's appearance if you don't like how the next upgrade(s) look on you.

[Laerune]

I have to agree with OP, they need to remove the glamour restriction and while they are at it, they need to make it so two classes sharing the same outfit can glamour it into two different looking glamour.

From a gameplay point of view, we already can wear bikini, Swine, Chocobo outfits en lets not forget that Tanks have alot of options when it comes to glamouring as a caster, while the opposite has only maybe 1 glamour (The summer 2016 outfit), this alone shows that SE is starting to change the way glamour works.

From a Lore point of view, my character has joined many guilds and learned many skills, she is not only a Scholar, but also a Summoner, can not only use Magick, but also take a sword and shield since she is a free Paladin. In her spare time she help the Goldsmith guild by taking on some of the orders that they have received. In the game we have seen that no matter what class you are, if you have finished/in the middle of the level 50 Dragoon quest, Estinien will call you an Azure Dragoon, if you have finished or are in the middle of the Alchemist storyline, no matter which class you are currently are playing on, the guildmaster will call you his apprentice/assistant when he visit the Ward in the current event. This shows that some part of the game does acknowledge that the WoL is part of more then one Guild.

[Beckett]

My immediate reaction is, "Hell no!" but

The excuses we've seen in the past for the class/job restrictions have revolved largely around keeping jobs to certain "looks", but honestly I think we can pretty much dismiss that excuse considering you can glamour swimsuits and all those other level 1 armors that have no particular role in mind.

is a very good point. We've already passed the point of no return, in terms of job identity. A tank in Dragoon armor or Scholar robes is certainly no worse than a tank in a bikini.

If they did open up cross class glamour, I would still want them to keep the level restrictions. If you're a level 60 SCH trying to glamour a level 50 BRD hat, but your Archer is only level 10, you shouldn't be able to glamour it.

Regardless of my opinions on it,

This is very simple to answer.
The system is simply not designed for this. The game still thinks you are wearing that item somewhere.
It is also the reason why you cannot glamour items that are above your level while you still have the correct job.
To do what you want will probably require a whole revision of the glamour system, if not the whole armor system of the game.

is most likely correct. It's unlikely to happen.

[RuleofThree]

I honestly think my paladin in white mage gear from The Vault would be incredible, and fit more to my character ideals and choices. That being said, I don't expect or perhaps even want the option available in game.

[NolLacnala]

I want to use the scholar savant gloves on my monk so I can call them my megabusters

[Bourne_Endeavor]

You and I may vehemently disagreed before OP. But definitely note here! Although, I'd go one better and ask they allow multiple glamour sets or somehow let you set it per job. Just because my Dark Knight looks edgy doesn't mean I want my Warrior to look the same.

Honestly, the glamour restriction is kinda pointless at this point. Tanks have always been able to wear cowls, robes and such to look like a (low level) mage. Heck, the Halloween event from two years ago rewarded us with gear that is very Black Mage-like in design.

Mages, on the other hand... we can't even wear harnesses or subligars :T

But you can wear the Power Ranger armour! Which only makes the role restriction argument even sillier.

[ErikMynhier]

I think a happy compromise would be to leave drops and exclusive gear as is and just remove the restrictions from crafted gear.