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  1. #21
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I'd like to see the player become the beast - a la Vincent Valentine from FF7.
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  2. #22
    Player GMERC's Avatar
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    Saltire Dalamiq
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I'd like to see the player become the beast - a la Vincent Valentine from FF7.
    July 2017 General Discussion Thread: "BST Transformations too small!! Let us be the full size of a Behemoth or I'm unsubbing, Yoshida!!"
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  3. #23
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    July 2017 General Discussion Thread: "BST Transformations too small!! Let us be the full size of a Behemoth or I'm unsubbing, Yoshida!!"
    Developer Response: "Lorewise it is impossible to gain mass through the act of transformation, and thus the form one takes is reliant upon the available mass within their body. We are aware that all races use the same sized models in transformation, while Roegadyn and Lalafell represent two extremes in size. Have you considered, perhaps, that one may have more compacted mass and one much less compacted mass?"
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  4. #24
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    Bonkleberry's Avatar
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    Justin Satanas
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    A Beastmaster would not transform into a monster. That would be the Morpher job from Final Fantasy Tactics. Beastmasters control monsters, Morphers turn into them.

    That said, almost every job/class released in this MMO has also made an appearance in a Tactics series. I think the only except is Arcanist or Astrologian (which I am in the camp of describing it as a renamed Time Mage). So, Morpher does not seem out of the ordinary to me with the Spiderman hint. He is a man that is also a spider.

    However, Blue Mage makes more sense to me, so...
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  5. #25
    Player GMERC's Avatar
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    Saltire Dalamiq
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    A Beastmaster would not transform into a monster. That would be the Morpher job from Final Fantasy Tactics. Beastmasters control monsters, Morphers turn into them.

    That said, almost every job/class released in this MMO has also made an appearance in a Tactics series. I think the only except is Arcanist or Astrologian (which I am in the camp of describing it as a renamed Time Mage). So, Morpher does not seem out of the ordinary to me with the Spiderman hint. He is a man that is also a spider.

    However, Blue Mage makes more sense to me, so...
    Funny story, but that's not actually quite correct either. Despite their name, Morpher doesn't transform into monsters at all, they just sort of appear to become posessed by them. FFTA was particularly lazy in that regard.

    Arcanist is a job that's appeared other places and has done various different things such that it was kind of an available blank slate.

    Astrologian is a mashup of Astrologer, Oracle, and Time Mage all wrapped up into one neat package. Some folks like to say AST is representative of Gambler as well but I think that'd maybe be a stretch.
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  6. #26
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    A Beastmaster would not transform into a monster. That would be the Morpher job from Final Fantasy Tactics. Beastmasters control monsters, Morphers turn into them.

    That said, almost every job/class released in this MMO has also made an appearance in a Tactics series. I think the only except is Arcanist or Astrologian (which I am in the camp of describing it as a renamed Time Mage). So, Morpher does not seem out of the ordinary to me with the Spiderman hint. He is a man that is also a spider.

    However, Blue Mage makes more sense to me, so...
    Seems to me quite a few of the jobs and classes in FFXIV are combinations of other jobs/classes through the series. If they added BST and incorporated Morpher elements into it, well, it doesn't seem to be much of a stretch to me. Or heck, they could add BLU and give it beast-based transformations ala Morpher.
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  7. #27
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    Justin Satanas
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Seems to me quite a few of the jobs and classes in FFXIV are combinations of other jobs/classes through the series. If they added BST and incorporated Morpher elements into it, well, it doesn't seem to be much of a stretch to me. Or heck, they could add BLU and give it beast-based transformations ala Morpher.
    Some classes/jobs may share spells/abilities that we saw previously on other classes/jobs, but the core identity of the class/job is still intact. There is no current example of one class/job completely inheriting the mechanics and identity of another class/job.

    Regardless, we are just arguing semantics here.
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  8. #28
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    As much as i would love Dancer far more then Samurai which i find overhyped in ths forum, lol) i am thinking Sam will be the next job announced for Stormblood.
    There is a rumour of 3 jobs however so who knows, if at all it will be BluMage and Sam or Dancer. Beastmaster perhaps later expansions
    You forget a gunblade user. It's very likely for 5.0, due to the possibility of going to Garlemald.
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  9. #29
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    Rin Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    You forget a gunblade user. It's very likely for 5.0, due to the possibility of going to Garlemald.
    I don't think we're tackling Garlemald until 6.0. In one of the letters, they stated the current set of expansions focus on the rebuilding of the Eorzean Alliance. 2.0 had Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, and Ul'dah. 3.0 was about Ishgard. 4.0 will be about Ala Mhigo. The letter also stated the storyline of the Eorzean Alliance being rebuilt wouldn't end until the end of 5.0/start of 6.0. Seems more likely 5.0 will have something to do with Sharlayan, given it'd be the last of the six city-states of Eorzea.
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  10. #30
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    Asael K'ni'roux
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    If ever there was going to be a bst job then XI version is probably the best example to draw from.
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