Job Level 1?

[Renius]

Starting at 30 is a good compromise for me. If you still do not know your job by the time you are 70 then that's on you. No one says you have to power lvl and go from 30 to 70 in two days, take your time and learn your rotations and skill synergies.

[Moomba33]

I enjoy leveling and wouldn't mind starting the new jobs from 1.
However, I think that SE wants to make it reasonable for players to play through the Stormblood story on the new jobs without having a huge grind to reach the starting level.

There's always Palace of the Dead and queuing for low level dungeons and Guildhests for those that enjoy getting used to their abilities slowly.

[Griffey]

I enjoy leveling and wouldn't mind starting the new jobs from 1.
However, I think that SE wants to make it reasonable for players to play through the Stormblood story on the new jobs without having a huge grind to reach the starting level.

There's always Palace of the Dead and queuing for low level dungeons and Guildhests for those that enjoy getting used to their abilities slowly.

This. I don't really want to have to choose between levelling a new job or the MSQ come 4.0. I mean yeah, there will be a little grinding even if the new jobs start at 50, but won't be as bad as starting from 1.

[Canadane]

This is gonna sound mean, but what kind of idiot would pick up a class with 30 abilities and not go learn how to play it before going to group content?

If someone can't be bothered to read tooltips and figure out a basic rotation, maybe they should stick to Candy Crush.

A surprisingly large amount of players do not know (or at least do not care to bother with) their basic rotation.

[Maero]

Leveling potions coming up would like a word, lol
I imagine there will be much players clueless about their job, even moreso then now which is scary

But honestly i do not mind that jobs start at 30 but have to say no to level 1 or 60 like some have mentioned
As someone who has all jobs but astro to 60, i do not wish to start at level 1, i am not that bored

[Airget]

To each their own, but I will point out that starting at lower level is also helpful for learning actions of the job before throwing a bunch of high level newbs that have no idea what actions do what into a dungeon....

As an example, take Final Fantasy XI, when people figured out they could power level folks from 30-99 in Abyssea. The people who got power leveled had no clue how to play their job and just caused grief and mayhem for the rest of us.

Not really, from 1-30 and heck even 1-50 and honestly certain jobs change distinctly from 50-60, so to suggest that playing the job from lv 1 somehow teaches you the job better is honestly inaccurate.

From NIN 30-50 you learn how to use jutsu and weave in huton for the reduction in skillspeed meanwhile once you hit 54 you learn a new 3 step combo closer that refreshes 30 seconds to your huton buff as long as it's active up to 70 seconds max changing the way you now use your jutsu to focus more on being pure offensive once you got the first huton off.

BRD/MCH change pretty drastically with their stationary stances forcing them to have to be aware of their position when they attack and to move out of AOE's as needed while potentially losing DPS out of it.

BLM gets 2 new abilities leylines which gives them an extra reason to stay stationary in the location of their choice and enochain which gives them a "huton" like aspect of upkeeping a buff that allows them to use Fire IV as long as they weave back and forth with Blizzard IV to keep Enochain up.

Basically a lot of jobs change the way they play from 50+ and most jobs don't even start til 30+ but even then with NIN it's just "shuriken" every 30 seconds til you get 35 and even then it's a choice between raiton single target or Katon aoe dmg, and with the changes to katon and it's damage potency there is even less thinking if you have least 3 mobs or more in the group.

Overall, it honestly isn't that hard to learn X job and even then, if people reallly want that slow pace of learning the job, just do POTD, yes you level up faster but quite honestly, it's way better to learn the job like that ina quick pace to get a slow ease of each skill then to press 1 til level 5 and then press 1-2 and sometimes 3 til level 10 and then sometimes press 4 but not until 20+ where you might be doing 1-2-3, 4-5 and then back to 1-2-3.

The complexity of the game isn't there at lower levels and it is just smarter for them to cut that unnecessary fat out when introducing a new job. Players aren't learning anything other than how to excel at George Jetson's job of pressing one button.

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Also when it comes to XI, it's skill ceiling was highly different from XIV. in XI you had something called combat and magic skill, so even if you were power leveled to 50, unless you took the time to lv your combat/magic skill you were pretty much as worthless as half that level if not worse. Powerleveling worked with jobs that shared certain combat skills and allowed the player to bypass the long grind to get x job up but even then XI had another gap in skill that required farming and gil to obtain, magic scrolls. So ya, it's true that if I were to start new as a lv 1 WHM and get PL and only PLed to 99 and nothing else, i'd be far behind because I'd have the magic skill of a lv 1 WHM along with 0 spells to actually play my job.

XIV doesn't have this issue so the aspect of starting at X level doesn't effect the game in the same way it effected XI.

[CheshirePuss]

High level all the way. Leveling itself isn't fun or engaging. It's just a time barrier to using the job at endgame.

It's almost as if there should be a punishment for having free reign over several jobs on a whim with one character. I honestly pride myself whenever I manage to reserve the time to cap a class, but knowing a class that I am looking forward to may be in this next expansion, and knowing it'll be handicapped in a way that shreds what fun I could have playing it throughout the list of dungeons in the game is somewhat depressing.

I realize this doesn't stop me from playing the lower dungeons, but that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

[AlphaFox]

I wouldn't argue with starting at level 1, would also be a way for new people who join in to start on those classes by default, granted I also won't argue with 30 like what has been done. The idea of starting at 50 though just kinda bugs me and not a fan of it myself cus I agree, I feel I learn the class more getting skills slowly as I level and finding how they work best for me. Still kinda shocked no poll has be put up yet by anyone.

[ErryK]

I prefer starting closer to cap as it allows me to jump to the most recent endgame as soon as possible. Whether I learn my skills or not is not a result of the job level being closer to cap, but a result of my lack of understanding of said skills, combos and rotations. It's a common misconception that the issue with RDM being 50 is that people don't have enough time to learn their skills, that's incorrect.

[YISUG]

I prefer starting closer to cap as it allows me to jump to the most recent endgame as soon as possible. Whether I learn my skills or not is not a result of the job level being closer to cap, but a result of my lack of understanding of said skills, combos and rotations. It's a common misconception that the issue with RDM being 50 is that people don't have enough time to learn their skills, that's incorrect.

^ this
you really dont need to play 70lvls to learn a job
after all once you hit max level your rotation changes and you gonna learn it again