Veteran Rewards: Rank 13+, and genuine player appreciation overall

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Perhaps, but taken from the perspective of a newer player, "oh wow, there's a Cloud and Zidane costume! I really want those. What? I have to wait TWO FULL YEARS? THREE YEARS? f that."

Personally, veteran rewards are great but locking that sort of stuff behind years of time is too much nowadays. You can compare EQ all you want, but I'm going to assume people playing EQ are a different sort of player than someone just starting FFXIV. I'd be perfectly happy with a kickback Fantasia and a couple stacks of unique fireworks every year or so.

Veteran rewards are not meant for the new player. That should be obvious based upon the name and the implementation.

Newer player wants to get 2, 3 year veteran rewards after only playing for a month, then quit entirely? As you put it - f that. Newer player wants to play game and over time turn into veteran player getting veteran rewards? Good for him/her!

[Darkstride]

I heard talk about a token system. Each rank = x amount of tokens. Tokens can be exchanged for which ever reward you would like, so you don't need to sub for 3 years to get the Zidane outfit for example.

But I doubt a good system like this will be made, so its probably the last one.

The Secret World had a veteran system similar this. It works pretty well. The only issue I had with it was that they didn't add new items very frequently, so eventually my Veteran tokens started to pile up lol.

[Atoli]

What Jeykama said is right, wether you like it or not.
It was during/around the time of the first Fanfest this year, when they explained that Veteran Rewards are going away because new players have expressed their displeasure that they can't wear Cloud's outfit from day 1 and the like. They felt that it left too much of a gap between veterans and new players and how it would be basically impossible to catch up.

Rank 14 will be last (and many players think the delay is because the Yuna/Tidus outfits were originally meant for rank 14 but got used as Fanfest reward instead).

Personally, I also think that's stupid and just one more sign that SE doesn't care about it's long time players, but my opinion won't simply change SE's stance on the matter >.>

[Solarra]

I started playing during HW and this makes me sad. I loved the veteran rewards. Cool stuff to thank you for logging on and staying subbed. What's to hate?

The problem with responding to complaints is that sometimes Companies don't consider if the people complaining represent the majority or are just a small but particularly vocal group.
I don't remember this issue coming up on these boards, because I would have definitely voted to keep the system as it is.

[Guhigh]

from my point of view, they should do the same thing with veteran reward as they did with the seasonal event.

You do the event you get the stuff for free. The next year the event is happening, new stuff for free if you do the event, and the old stuff is made available in the cash shop.

for veteran reward just put old stuff in the cash shop for ppl that want it ASAP and give your long time subscriber a 3 to 6 month edge for new stuff. Or just rip the whole thing off, put everything in the cash shop and give us veteran reward cash shop credit to get 1 or 2 item free per year in the cash shop.

[Luinne]

Last I heard, the next rank is going to be the last one, due to complaints that the duration of time you need subbed has gotten pretty ridiculous.

it's called, "Time in service". Anyone bawling about "it taking too long" needs to just go back to wow with that self-entitled attitude. If they never played WoW, then with an attitude like that, they'd fit right in and need to go now.

[Luinne]

That makes no sense. I don't mean what you just said, I mean the reason why SE would not add anymore Veteran Rewards. The sole purpose of these has always been to reward subscription time.

If they really wanna stop doing that because new players (or regular returning players with a short total subscription time) complain they will never be able to obtain these items in game, then SE could just progressively add them at a very high price in the Cash-Shop, while still adding new veteran rewards for free to their loyal customers.

The only logical reason I could understand for them to stop adding veteran rewards is that there is only a very restricted part of the player base that subscribes as long as its required to obtain the long veteran rewards, and that it's not worth creating more for so few players.

so screw the loyal players and just keep fleecing the player base as a whole with virtual goods market. awesome.

[Luinne]

What Jeykama said is right, wether you like it or not.
It was during/around the time of the first Fanfest this year, when they explained that Veteran Rewards are going away because new players have expressed their displeasure that they can't wear Cloud's outfit from day 1 and the like. They felt that it left too much of a gap between veterans and new players and how it would be basically impossible to catch up.

Rank 14 will be last (and many players think the delay is because the Yuna/Tidus outfits were originally meant for rank 14 but got used as Fanfest reward instead).

Personally, I also think that's stupid and just one more sign that SE doesn't care about it's long time players, but my opinion won't simply change SE's stance on the matter >.>

so you're confirming my suspicions. SquEnix said screw the loyalists. awesome...

[Luinne]

I started playing during HW and this makes me sad. I loved the veteran rewards. Cool stuff to thank you for logging on and staying subbed. What's to hate?

The problem with responding to complaints is that sometimes Companies don't consider if the people complaining represent the majority or are just a small but particularly vocal group.
I don't remember this issue coming up on these boards, because I would have definitely voted to keep the system as it is.

doesn't have to be "majority" or not. As a person who has been around since beta of the failed initial release of FFXIV, and beta of ARR... that carries clout. That carries the time, money and energy spent supporting this game and more importantly, THE F`ING COMPANY. To just get the middle finger from them saying it isn't worth their time... yet they can crank out virtual goods items faster than they pass re-fried beans... terrible.