Red Mage Gear - DoM or DoW?

[DevilsDontFly]

It might use INT gear but I don't think it's going to be the same as BLM/SMN because as a RDM you're often going into melee range to do your combos and stuff, so I think RDM will have more VIT on it's gear compared to the default caster ones. So probably something like NIN, using INT as a main stat so you can use BLM/SMN accessories but having it's own personal gear even though the three jobs benefit from the same status.

[Laerune]

Its either going to be a DoM class with its own gearset (so no sharing with BLM and SMN) or DoW and shares same gearset as BRD and Machinist. Personaly, I think it should be a DoM class and it should have its own gearset like Ninja, Dragoon and Monk.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Has it, or may it be confirmed:

Will the armor that RDM uses be the caster pieces, currently labeled for SMN/BLM or Disciple of Magic? Or, will they use the melee pieces, usable now by all Disciple of War classes?

Sorry, Yoshi-P and SE are being completely hush on what gear Red Mage will use. This is similar to what they did before Rogue/Ninja was released.

it's a caster job, so it will obviously use caster gear (same as BLM/SMN, except artifact armors which are job specific)

Not necessarily. Jobs are assigned gear based on Aesthetics not main stats. This is why Rogue/Ninja uses the Rogue Aesthetics instead of Ranged (Dex), and why Lancer/Dragoon uses Maille Aesthetics and Pugilist/Monk uses Melee Aesthetics even though they are both Str based.

[Radacci]

Ninja has magic damage through its ninjutsu and it scales off DEX?

that's for convenience. if ninjutsu was based on int, there would be no reason to use most of the ninjutsu, cause the damage would be garbage (with nin being dex job) it's same with all the drk spells.
RDM is ranged caster, so it will use int gear, and melee skills will scale off int.

Melee jobs already do have a higher Def stat because they are more likely to get hit by physical attacks while casters have a higher Mdef and lower defense because they are more likely to be targeted by ranged magic attacks. Drgs already have a higher def than the other melee classes. And by no mangling of logic would Drg ever need as much def as a tank. The name of the game isn't "Do not get hit". Yes, SE expects you to dodge things. However, you aren't meant to be shredded to bits after 1 hit.

there's nothing in this game that one-shots a caster, except tank busters, and avoidable mechanics, or SMN/BLM would be screwed.
Sure there will be plenty of lolRDM that use badly timed jumps. Many raid mechanics are magic damage, so they will survive that much easier than melee too, anyway.
all the tanks/casters/healers/ranged share gear, aside from artifact stuff, so i see no reason why RDM would be different.
If it gets its own line of gear, that will just create an even bigger loot bloat.
DRG has its own line, cause more tanky gear. nin has its own line cause it's dex unlike the other melee jobs.
mostly it's just artifact armors that are role specific, and follow the theme of a particular job.

Not necessarily. Jobs are assigned gear based on Aesthetics not main stats. This is why Rogue/Ninja uses the Rogue Aesthetics instead of Ranged (Dex), and why Lancer/Dragoon uses Maille Aesthetics and Pugilist/Monk uses Melee Aesthetics even though they are both Str based.

is that why mnk get cowboy glams, cause ninja<>cowboy?
most gear don't look like the assigned jobs. monk/nin gear rarely fit the theme of the job; they usually look like pirates or cowboys, or share looks with ranged jobs.
in many cases mnk/drg share look as well.
and often drg looks more tanky than tanks (such as drg vs tank dreadywyrm armors)

Sorry, Caster robes do not fit with the Red Mage's traditional leather armor Roguish Aesthetics. The Ranged DpS classification is for other purposes than gearing.

traditionally gear didn't change your char look, but here we are, with monks looking like cowboys.

[Ariane]

Not necessarily. Jobs are assigned gear based on Aesthetics not main stats. This is why Rogue/Ninja uses the Rogue Aesthetics instead of Ranged (Dex), and why Lancer/Dragoon uses Maille Aesthetics and Pugilist/Monk uses Melee Aesthetics even though they are both Str based.

Not really true. Ninja aesthetics fit with monk aesthetics. SE even seems to agree with this because the early monk gear was made usable with ninja. All they had to do is make ninja attack power be based on STR, and then they could just use the monk gear. But apparently they couldn't bring themselves to making ninjas based on STR. If they can't make STR ninjas, I don't see them doing DEX red mages. So red mage will be INT, and the only question is if they will share with SMN/BLM or will they have their own gear.

[myahele]

Alisae showed us that a mage can fight with a sword and be a tank of sorts, so I don't see why it won't be a DoM gear.

It might have a few melee moves (like that gap closing one), but it's listed as ranged casting job

They can go the NIN route and give RDM it's own unique gear, but I'd rather they don't

[Ultimatecalibur]

but it's listed as ranged casting job

This is for PvP queuing, end-game mechanics and lb purposes rather than gear determination. A melee/ranged hybrid and a full ranged dps would be far more effective than a melee+ranged in 4v4 PvP.

[Velhart]

They already said it is primarily a ranged DPS. Casting spells and finishing off with melee attacks is what it does. This will fit right into the BLM/SMN gear set.

[Ultimatecalibur]

They already said it is primarily a ranged DPS. Casting spells and finishing off with melee attacks is what it does. This will fit right into the BLM/SMN gear set.

Sorry, Caster robes do not fit with the Red Mage's traditional leather armor Roguish Aesthetics. The Ranged DpS classification is for other purposes than gearing.

[Velhart]

Sorry, Caster robes do not fit with the Red Mage's traditional leather armor Roguish Aesthetics. The Ranged DpS classification is for other purposes than gearing.

Yea well big goofy looking robes don't fit a MCH well either but look at the majority of gear I get that looks like a BRD or I am going to a fancy tea party.

Red Mage is a DoM, a ranged caster. Completely confirmed by Yoshi-P. So it either gets the Casting set or SE makes a dumb decision again to make another gear set. Which we definitely do not need or the drops from chests in dungeons/raids are going to be even more miserable. Adding Scouting was bad enough.

Also why would a job that mostly casts spells be associated with STR or DEX? I think it is common sense at this point.