When did this become a trend?

[Taika]

This x1000. Currently proDPS healers tend to demonize those healers that would rather focus on making sure the party survives through all mechanics rather than spend 90% of their time in clerics.

This is a really bad strawman. No one has ever suggested that good healer play means ignoring essential healing requirements. The pro-DPS argument is that a healer should cover the minimum healing requirements (= heal as effectively as possible) and then use the remaining time and resources on DPS.

[Rivxkobe]

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We all already know that you want healers only healing so they can spam heals on you while you sit in DPS stance as a tank all day long without using appropriate cooldowns. (This is the only way it would make sense because with proper cooldown usage a healer can still DPS when a Tank is in DPS stance) Sorry that you are clueless about how this game works and efficiency. I do hope, one day, someone is able to get through to you and passed your blind ignorance and stubbornness.

Also, just as an aside, I have never run any savage but I do do research and listen to those who have, and watch videos on them. I also play the game and understand how most kits work so I can theorycraft quite a bit. People arguing that Healing has been low in most savages, so healers are somehow "lazy" and DPS a lot (oxymoron), and that Healer DPS in savages is a "new thing" in Heavensward are clueless.

[Ilan]

This x1000. Currently proDPS healers tend to demonize those healers that would rather focus on making sure the party survives through all mechanics rather than spend 90% of their time in clerics.

That is more than just wrong. A good healer will always keep his party alive (if they don't fuck up everything and die of stupidity) and do dps. If the healer deals dps and doesn't heal his party on top of it, he is either bad or he needs way more practice.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

That is more than just wrong.

Not really wrong when it's what I see on these forums every day. =u=/ Personally when I play healer I'd rather make sure people are properly healthy first and foremost before tossing a few dps spells out, but it does get amusing to intentionally let someone die at the last minute, since I can just say I'm learning and no one will care.

[Cynfael]

Not really wrong when it's what I see on these forums every day. =u=/ Personally when I play healer I'd rather make sure people are properly healthy first and foremost before tossing a few dps spells out, but it does get amusing to intentionally let someone die at the last minute, since I can just say I'm learning and no one will care.

I admire your persistence in an odd way, but are you ever going to drop this fiction that it's impossible for healers to ensure that parties remain "properly healthy" while using the DPS side of their kit?

[Rivxkobe]

Not really wrong when it's what I see on these forums every day. =u=/ Personally when I play healer I'd rather make sure people are properly healthy first and foremost before tossing a few dps spells out, but it does get amusing to intentionally let someone die at the last minute, since I can just say I'm learning and no one will care.

What fantasy world do you live in?

I know I'll never get a proper response, because you never give one, but show me this: "Currently proDPS healers tend to demonize those healers that would rather focus on making sure the party survives through all mechanics rather than spend 90% of their time in clerics." You make erroneous statements all the time and never offer evidence. And anyone who does that anyway is a bad healer.

[CookieMonsta]

It's what happens when everyone insists that DPS is the pinnacle of game play & healing comes second. If healers were encouraged to mainly heal, rather than DPS, I guess they'd spend more time looking at the friend's health rather than the foe's.

Not even bro, don't try to push that crappy agenda here. Those 100% healers who cast 1 spell per minute will be just as bad or worse.
And no, DPS is not the pinnacle of gaming. Knowing what to do at a moment in time and maintaining GCD-time efficiency is the pinnacle of gaming.

[Fernosaur]

It's what happens when everyone insists that DPS is the pinnacle of game play & healing comes second.

You have no idea what you're talking about tbh. I DPS through 90% of that fight (Whispering Dawn ftw), and know to shield and Lustrate the preyed DPS. I stopped running A11 a loong time ago because I have no use for it, but back when I did I'd always get co-healers who wouldn't DPS and just stand there, and I'd always be the only one taking care of the prey, which is no problem at all, really, since the fight is easily solo-healable if the group isn't absolute crap. Sometimes the aforementioned DPS would run towards me and kill me because lol DF, and the other healer wouldn't take care of them either, so we'd both die.

It is not a matter of people DPSing more than healing. It is a matter of people being bad at the game and not knowing how to heal a fight. And I guarantee you that healers that don't DPS fit that description like a glove.

[Cynfael]

Let's not twist a complaint about players being bad into yet another broad-brush complaint about healer DPS.

I've played with plenty of healers who were just as bad without casting even a single attack spell.

[Raminax]

Let's not twist a complaint about players being bad into yet another broad-brush complaint about healer DPS.

I've played with plenty of healers who were just as bad without casting even a single attack spell.

Usually, I find that the "Heal Only!" healers are worse at precasting/preshielding stuff like A11 Prey than the naughty DPS healers.

And they're usually even worse at using Tetragrammaton and its equivalents to save the poor DPS, because that stuff needs to be saved for 'real' emergencies.