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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShigureKosaka View Post
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    And I respectfully disagree with this. The money lost from it would be minute in my opinion, since I don't think it'll affect as many people as you think. Not only that, but also in my opinion, the time taken away from handling current issues like harassment (which happens more than you think), would push MORE players away from the game. Yes, they do tell you to post the suggestions on the forums and it will reach the right eyes. Doesn't mean they'll add it in. Only reason the Chinese/Korean outfits got added was because there was huge demand for it, and there was money to be made from it. Here, there's neither. There's only a tiny handful of people wanting this, vs everyone else saying "Nope".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShigureKosaka View Post
    And When I say Money I mean lets say for example, 7 years down the road we have alot of people quit and maybe a few numbers delete there character and want to make a return. If its a limit on the restore its gonna make the person who would rather have a character restored then spend 30-40$ on a jump potion and then maybe more for the story jump one as well and its gonna make SE loose some money that they could be pocketing for another expansion or a FF18 or what ever. My point is its gonna cost them later down the road.
    Most people don't delete their characters when they decide to stop subscribing unless they're trying to quit for addiction reasons and want to wipe out temptation. Only SE has the numbers, but I don't imagine there's anywhere near enough people randomly deleting their characters more than once to assign the storage and manpower needed to make the changes you're requesting. As for the Chinese and Korean outfits, yes, quite a few people were asking for those. So far it's just you on this one.

    edit: Apologies, you and a couple others that liked the initial suggestion.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 12-29-2016 at 05:50 AM.

  3. #103
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    Yes Its me alone so far, But I am doing what the GM's always say. "IF you have a suggestion you would like to see in the game please post it in the forums and we will look into it" So thats what I am doing, As stated before your opinion is really needed as this was a suggestion ment for the company not anyone else.
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    Also Look at how many voiced against the Jump potions and Yet Yoshida said there coming get over it. So regardless of people disagreeing it could in fact happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShigureKosaka View Post
    Yes Its me alone so far, But I am doing what the GM's always say. "IF you have a suggestion you would like to see in the game please post it in the forums and we will look into it" So thats what I am doing, As stated before your opinion is really needed as this was a suggestion ment for the company not anyone else.
    Community feedback from everyone else on your suggestion is also vital and taken into account by SE. Saying our opinion isn't really needed is just going to make SE more likely to discard your idea is more likely to make SE throw it into the trash. I know if someone posted an idea and said "nobody else's input is needed" because they all disagreed with the OP, I, and I am someone who has done software development before, would say "Nope! Forget it!" and you wouldn't get your wish.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShigureKosaka View Post
    Also Look at how many voiced against the Jump potions and Yet Yoshida said there coming get over it. So regardless of people disagreeing it could in fact happen.
    There was BIG money to be had there. Here, there's virtually none to be made. And I daresay more to be lost by the time taken away FROM other GM calls because of this. Also, nobody said "Your opinion isn't needed" just because they were for/against jump potions. Discussion was a lot more open there.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  6. #106
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    In fact there is money to be made from a change of this policy, In fact if they did change there policy on there one time restore and in fact charged a small fee for it. It would bring in more money for SE so this change isnt useless or a waste of money.
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  7. #107
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    There is money to be made from a mogstation feature charging a fee for a character restore, No one but SE as another stated knows how many people delete there characters or request restores so you nore I can claim Right or wrong on that, But the fact is this change and feature wouldnt cost much let alone effect the gms anymore then a normal gm call already does.
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    They say there's no guarantee it can be restored. Therefore they can't charge for it because if they did and couldn't restore, they'd HAVE to refund or at least in countries like the UK/US, they could be sued for a lot of money, and by refunding, they also have to pay refund fees (been in the position myself so I know this). Thus, they've lost money. To ensure they could guarantee 100% chance of character restoration or as close as possible to it, there'd need to be a TON more server space allocated (think of all the data each character holds, and they'd have to hold this forever), and that costs money. They'd have to charge more than a small fee (you're looking at $20 or more I'd say), to offset those costs. And the amount of people using it would be tiny if you ask me. So again, I don't think it'll make them money.

    Of course SE knows the actual hard coded numbers, but we can work with estimates. And usually our estimates are around the right ballmark collectively.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. #109
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    They said the same thing and I mean the exact same thing back when 11 was big, and 3-4 years down the road you can restore any, An I mean any character. so that's a straight lie on there part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShigureKosaka View Post
    In fact there is money to be made from a change of this policy, In fact if they did change there policy on there one time restore and in fact charged a small fee for it. It would bring in more money for SE so this change isnt useless or a waste of money.
    Jump potion: automated process, highly in demand because a lot of people who are starting the game want to join friends/the majority in the endgame, process can be guranteed

    Restoring character data: Has to be done manually, data has to be stored somewhere, back ups have to be made and saved, process might not be a 100% depending on the latest back up (I've also read several stories about people having issues after they got their characters restored - missing job crystals, items etc.), most people dont delete their character, so there wouldnt be a market for this
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