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    Player
    Meow9000's Avatar
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    Professor Moon
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 70

    Ninjas and skill speed

    How much skill speed is needed to comfortably perform the opener(fitting 5 gcds inside trick attack ). After Bising what I could to meet acc caps and such I have 492 skill speed (and 817 crit, hallelujah), I don't notice a huge difference but I do notice a slightly longer gcd after doing multiple upgrades. It still seems like I'm getting all 5 gcds in TA, but due to the animation on Duality it seems like my Aeolian edge hits right before or as it falls off, and cutting it that close I'm afraid server ticks or lag might cause it to miss by just a second.
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    I can easily get duality AE in under TA with 428 SS, I've even done it with less than 390 SS. It is heavily connection dependent though.
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    Xenon_S's Avatar
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    Xenon Shinkiro
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    im currently having a 2.09s gcd under huton and is able to pull it off properly, it is very tight however
    in extreme cases, do aeolian edge before mutilate to be on the safe side
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Since they reduced the TP cost of Spinning Edge, I bet the new tome gear is FULL of Skill Speed!!
    So, I don't think that fitting 5 strikes in a TA window will be a problem in the near future!
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    It isn't a problem now, lol.
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I minimize skillspeed as much as possible as its stat weight is abysmal in comparison to the others. I've personally never had an issue fitting the moves into TA. I do have an issue with GCD clipping in regards to increased skillspeed however.
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    NIN will always want as little SS as possible due to mudra clipping. If you are struggling to hit AE under TA with 500 SS, consider changing from raiton to fuma.
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    NIN will always want as little SS as possible due to mudra clipping. If you are struggling to hit AE under TA with 500 SS, consider changing from raiton to fuma.
    Maybe it's just me, but I'm okay with my mudras overlapping slightly with my GCD considering that happens only once every 20 sec. If I lose one second on GCD but can make that up with increased speed the other 19 seconds, overall, I feel like I'm still doing fine.

    Also I'm sure there's a personal style aspect going into it here where I love that as Ninja there's always some attack I could be performing. I get bored on other DPS classes once I use up all my weave attacks and have to wait three seconds between attacks.
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  9. #9
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    There are some very complex calculations that can be done (and have been done), that actually show that the GCD clipping from mudras can impact your dps in a fairly major way. Also, SS is awful for our TP consumption issues.
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    There are some very complex calculations that can be done (and have been done), that actually show that the GCD clipping from mudras can impact your dps in a fairly major way. Also, SS is awful for our TP consumption issues.
    That may be the case, but I enjoy playing more if I'm super speedy, that at least to me, that's more important. It is a game, after all, important that you do what you enjoy.
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