Red Mage thread

[ThickishGerm]

When asked directly didn't Yoshi P respond by saying its "pure DPS"?

One would think it's not a ranged support role in the way MCH/BRD are.

[Greedalox]

When asked directly didn't Yoshi P respond by saying its "pure DPS"?

One would think it's not a ranged support role in the way MCH/BRD are.

TO BE FAIR, most classes match MCH/BRD in utility. The support tag comes purely from our mana regeneration which is silly. RDM could still have plenty of utility just like everyone else while still being "pure dps."

[mosaicex]

When asked directly didn't Yoshi P respond by saying its "pure DPS"?

One would think it's not a ranged support role in the way MCH/BRD are.

Yes, Yoshida explicitly stated that Red Mage is pure DPS type when asked whether it was going to be support-oriented or pure DPS.

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs...w/1036771.html

>――赤魔道士は、ピュアDPSですか、それとも支援系ですか？
>吉田氏：ピュアDPSです。

That being said, it WILL probably have some kind utility skills, but people shouldn't set themselves up for a disappointment nonetheless.

[ChazNatlo]

Somewhere back in the past, In a thread asking what we wanted to see in future classes, I mentioned wanting a class that positioned to and fro, rather than another that moves side to side. Mentioning Red mage as a possibility (or some sort of mundane explosives user) so, I mean, I'm pretty happy.

[xJimmehx]

Im so excited! I re-subbed just for RDM. I have been complaining since 1.0 because i wanted a spell-sword(not pally or drk though i like drk). I think it will be mostly obvious how it plays with all the info we have. There really arent that many options if you consider the game balance and current mechanics as well. First off If Yoshida said pure dps.. then no heals. Then we can only assume:

It uses speedy positionals.
Chainspells -assumption: cant be a fancy name for 123 combo. or they would have said combo...right? There has to be something else to it.
Black Magic -assumption: Combo finisher that is something like a Flare from BLM
White Magic -assumption: Most likely Aero or something damage based from the WHM job. If not damage based, and not a heal, whats left? Stone? Esuna? Cant be.. hm..Haste? Wait, speedy positionals.. hmmmm...

Im willing to bet RDM has Earth, Fire, Lightning, Water, and Aero spells from WHM/BLM or a 123 spell combo of similar type magics. Im betting that RDM builds stacks similar to monks greased lightning with those spells in ranged positions. As well as lunging abilities to get in, or out of melee range and dodge larger aoes. It will most likely be squishy and die fast. It will probably use magic based melee attacks that can keep the chainspell stacks flowing.

Another possibility for chainspells is something like warrior's wrath stacks. Spend your wrath to use an innerbeast type move.(The flare thing)
Or...
Ninja-like: What skills you use, and in what order cause different end results to be cast.
Either way i can hardly contain my excitement until summer x_x

[Maero]

The question is also what position will it be in?
Will they make it to outshine blm and smn or something in between.
If it has not much utility, what will they do?
Rydia actually makes good points and i would hope they have some sort of haste ability since chaining combos and the like

[Madrone]

The question is also what position will it be in?
Will they make it to outshine blm and smn or something in between.
If it has not much utility, what will they do?
Rydia actually makes good points and i would hope they have some sort of haste ability since chaining combos and the like

Likely Caster LB and Caster spot in raid balanced parties. It could have melee LB and compete utility/slot-wise with melee DPS, and i would like for it to, but I don't think that's very likely. Its not hard to outshine BLM/SMN in utility given that what they offer mostly defensive (E4E, Virus/Supervirus, Apoc, Raise, weak Physick) benefits but what is most attractive are offensive benefits. There some skill changing and new skills coming, so comparing utility right now vs utility at level 70 might (hopefully) be different.

Haste is a sticky issue. AST has Arrow card and no one really likes it except for BLM due to it accelerating resource depletion and BLM having infinite resources. Self speed buffs are a bit different since MNK and NIN TP costs take into account that they have a Haste effect most of the time. Adding on top of that is still a problem. There are plenty of other options for RDM utility though.

[Powe]

Wait will red mage have a second arm, like you have to get different crystals? like Paladin with its shield or would it be like AST and their card thing

[Jem]

Wait will red mage have a second arm, like you have to get different crystals? like Paladin with its shield or would it be like AST and their card thing

Highly doubtfull, it will most likely be a main hand combination weapon.

[mosaicex]

Wait will red mage have a second arm, like you have to get different crystals? like Paladin with its shield or would it be like AST and their card thing

No, already confirmed that the Crystal medium and the Rapier are both considered one weapon.