Thread: Combat Damage Revamp for 4.0

Originally Posted by Mikey_R

the ones that do have multiple hits have the damage split into the multiple hits for damage and I can't think of a single case where this doesn't apply.

I can only think of one exception in the entire game, and it's a randomly used MNK mob attack called Triple Threat. XD Tank busters that aren't a single massive hit are in fact split into multiple hits, like Gobrush Rushgob and that one attack the first boss uses in Fractal. At least as far as I can think of ATM. Probably others.

Originally Posted by Dzian

This in part at least is why parry is broken.

If a 6 hit skill skill hits a tank he'd effectively have 6 chances to parry it and mitigate a chunk of the damage. But because everything is done as a single attack it cripples it a lot

Not really. Parry is broken because the beginning chances are so small. 6 hits, 1 hit... it doesn't make much difference.

its so much more satisfying to see every hit do damage.

Originally Posted by Averax

its so much more satisfying to see every hit do damage.

This...sooo much. I cannot stand playing ninja because I see the animation hit multiple times but its just one hit.

I would love some new mechanic for Tanks that would raise our crit or overall dps in proportion to our place on the Hate Scale. Would be nice to have a bump of DPS as a reward for doing our job better. Lets me tank like a boss and in exchange get a little more dps, not more then a DPS class mind you, just a bit of breathing room.

Example:

Hate = 0% {0% DPS Boost}
Hate = #2 {5% DPS Boost}
Hate = #A {5% DPS Boost, 5% Crit Boost}

We would still stance dance of course but think of it, as tank you take spot #A in defensive stance at the start, swap to DPS stance and that little 5% can give you a little more aggro room. Not game breaking, just a bit of help.

Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

I would love some new mechanic for Tanks that would raise our crit or overall dps in proportion to our place on the Hate Scale. Would be nice to have a bump of DPS as a reward for doing our job better. Lets me tank like a boss and in exchange get a little more dps, not more then a DPS class mind you, just a bit of breathing room.

Example:

Hate = 0% {0% DPS Boost}
Hate = #2 {5% DPS Boost}
Hate = #A {5% DPS Boost, 5% Crit Boost}

We would still stance dance of course but think of it, as tank you take spot #A in defensive stance at the start, swap to DPS stance and that little 5% can give you a little more aggro room.

As much fun as that sounds, people already complain about jobs being designed for MT or OT, so I can't imagine something like this going over well. Can you imagine all the tank wars that'll occur in 24 man raids if this was implemented? XD

Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

As much fun as that sounds, people already complain about jobs being designed for MT or OT, so I can't imagine something like this going over well. Can you imagine all the tank wars that'll occur in 24 man raids if this was implemented? XD

Yeah but still fun. "BATTLE OF THE OTs FOR THE SECOND SPOT! TO WAR!!!!"

I wish it was damage per swing. Monk would be so rewarding to play with all the crits and what not.

Originally Posted by Jhett_Magnum

I wish it was damage per swing. Monk would be so rewarding to play with all the crits and what not.

it would almost make each of their punches more impactful

Originally Posted by Ralts

it would almost make each of their punches more impactful

I have not tallied up the number of animation hits for Bootshine, but for the sake of illustration, lets say its ten. Ten hits.

Bootshine has 150 Potency. If we had ten hits on it, we would have ten 15 Potency hits, totaling the current 150. It would NOT be ten individual 150 Potency hits, as that would be very unbalanced. The game is balanced around each class/job move doing so much Potency in total. Breaking that one damage number reported into each component hit would only break the total Potency up into those little hits as well.

I'm happy with the current display on screen. Its not too much, that it obscures what's going on. If it helps people to feel better about it, pretend that you are seeing the aggregate damage from that one move, and not just the number from one hit (the one hit the game cares about).