@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a DPS class!!!

[Empress]

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Honestly the blame falls onto Square if they don't take the time to make sure they rework tank to become more appealing otherwise it wont matter because everyones just gonna abandon ship from tanks into new dps. Already happened with Ninja will happen again. Also the fact that Tank ques are so bad now when queing up as another class should be evidence enough that Evangela is right about Tanks. It is boring. - Coming from a lvl60 DRK that used to main it.

[Anzaman]

Already happened with Ninja, will happen again.

Only for temporarily tho. Like we had a lot Dark Knights running around with 3.0 release, but most of them abandoned it once they reached max level.

[Belhi]

The issue most people have with tanking isn't that it is boring but that most people don't feel comfortable in the role because its front and center and very visable. Mistakes and bad tanking are often easily noticed so many people find it stressful. That's not even counting that many groups will often look to the tanks to take the lead.

I am not to bothered by if SAM is tank or dps. However if it is dps I am hoping we don't see it till 5.0. Two dps will mess up dungeon queues a lot and that is more likely to bother me than which role SAM is in.

Only for temporarily tho. Like we had a lot Dark Knights running around with 3.0 release, but most of them abandoned it once they reached max level.

That is still at least a month at launch where players are pissed off that they cant level through the MSQ as a dps without queues over an hour long.

[Anzaman]

That is still at least a month at launch where players are pissed off that they cant level through the MSQ as a dps without queues over an hour long.

Did that happen in 3.0 when tanks (and healers) had long queues to dungeons? Meanwhile I could hop into dungeon instantly as Machinist.

[Empress]

Only for temporarily tho. Like we had a lot Dark Knights running around with 3.0 release, but most of them abandoned it once they reached max level.

Your talking about a tank class which again wouldnt last long to begin with. Tanks themselves dont have much of a hold onto casual players when just you are trying to tank in a raid. End Game is very stressful and not many wanna play stress inducing classes. Hell you cant even use Limit break which honestly should also get reworked so that way we can do damage with them as well not just per what classes do.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

Lets make all the tanks a dps so the so good players that can only play dps will be happy.

[Belhi]

Did that happen in 3.0 when tanks (and healers) had long queues to dungeons? Meanwhile I could hop into dungeon instantly as Machinist.

Tank and healer queues weren't particularly bad but they were already an existing shortage so the switch just pulled things closer to being equal.

[Katana190]

But, I find it funnier that most of the people in that topic have made points that it should be a tank instead.

It's kinda the same with the Tank thread, it triggers the other side. Makes sense.

Tank and healer queues weren't particularly bad but they were already an existing shortage so the switch just pulled things closer to being equal.

My queues were as fast as his MCH queues, some were instant still, some weren't. That was really the only change, it made DPS/Healers have insta queues like tanks, it didn't make our queues any longer then theirs.

People also seem to believe adding a Tank will only temporary help the start of an expansions queue times, when that is not true. It keeps the CURRENT tank population healthy, some people like myself have been stuck raiding on WAR since 2.1... although I find the job insanely fun and fleshed out, I want a new experience, I can't really get that with DRK or PLD though. If I have to play WAR for ANOTHER 2 years... well I don't even know, I'll probably grin and bear it, for my raid group, but I will complain to them for another 2 years

[Galaktica]

Honestly the blame falls onto Square if they don't take the time to make sure they rework tank to become more appealing otherwise it wont matter because everyones just gonna abandon ship from tanks into new dps.

Again, I'm agreeing with that. My point was that she said "tanking is boring" which, judging from her post history, I assume was supposed to mean "therefore Samurai should be a dps" and I don't think that's good reasoning at all.

Yes, Square Enix should absolutely try to make tanking more exciting. Giving them more options, akin to the multitude present for dps, is one way to help alleviate possible boredom with the role. Hopefully, Square Enix would opt to do more along with just adding another job.

Simply saying "well this role sucks so they shouldn't get the new job" is both incredibly selfish and short-sighted. Congrats, you get a new job, but you and everyone else also get queue times that are exponentially longer for the foreseeable future.

If anything, people should be praying for both a new tank job and that Square finds a way to make tanking more appealing if at all possible.

[Ragology]

Lets say SAM is made into a dps job. Are there any jobs left in the series that could fill the tank role?