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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    as far as we know, there's only going to be 2 new jobs: SAM and RDM. RDM is confirmed to be DPS.
    Shouldn't be, because it wouldn't be balanced.

    Nobody is gonna tank up old jobs to level others because everyone is gonna be playing new jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Nobody is gonna tank up old jobs to level others because everyone is gonna be playing new jobs.
    Speak for yourself, when Heavensward released I got Paladin and Scholar both to 60 before starting on the new jobs.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Shouldn't be, because it wouldn't be balanced.

    Nobody is gonna tank up old jobs to level others because everyone is gonna be playing new jobs.
    I sure as hell won't, Viva la fates cos it's gonna be Ninja fiasco all over again with the que times.
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    I actually think SAM makes more sense as a DPS. Since I believe it can bring something unique to the table vs being a tank. I won't main it either way though (now dancer on the other hand, that has my attention if it comes in Stormblood, but it better not be a DPS), so I'm not really biased here.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I actually think SAM makes more sense as a DPS. Since I believe it can bring something unique to the table vs being a tank. I won't main it either way though (now dancer on the other hand, that has my attention if it comes in Stormblood, but it better not be a DPS), so I'm not really biased here.
    Oh my God are you serious? Red mage already a DPS, yet you want ANOTHER DPS? Seems so unbiased, no really. The problem is that we need a viable tank role and Samurai as a Tank is the best option: heavy armor, good for parry etc. And is appealing for the MAJORITY (I said majority, so no not all tanks but a good some who actually main tank) want something nice. How many more DPS jobs do u want? Fk Tanking if yoshida isn't going to give love to tanks, might aswell go to DPS and yolo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madepossible View Post
    Oh my God are you serious? Red mage already a DPS, yet you want ANOTHER DPS? Seems so unbiased, no really. The problem is that we need a viable tank role and Samurai as a Tank is the best option: heavy armor, good for parry etc. And is appealing for the MAJORITY (I said majority, so no not all tanks but a good some who actually main tank) want something nice. How many more DPS jobs do u want? Fk Tanking if yoshida isn't going to give love to tanks, might aswell go to DPS and yolo.
    majority of ppl are dps, so since the majority of ppl like sam and dps, it would annoy the majority of players if they made SAM into tank, because only a minority of players enjoy tanking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Shouldn't be, because it wouldn't be balanced.

    Nobody is gonna tank up old jobs to level others because everyone is gonna be playing new jobs.
    no they won't many ppl will cap their mains first.
    there won't be a single SAM/RDM in stormblood areas for the majority of first day, while many ppl will do the MSQ with their lv 60 mains; it will take a few days before the new jobs start invading the new areas, en masse.
    Since we're getting cross-server PF, you can very easily find a PT for whatever SB dungeon, with any job.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 12-25-2016 at 06:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madepossible View Post
    Oh my God are you serious?
    Interesting considering many of your opinions about what should be done to Tanks.

    You want PLD and DRK to have their DPS increased.
    You want WAR DPS decreased.
    Yet... You want SAM as a Tank heavily DPS focused with a "Dodge" mechanic.

    You basically want to strip away some of the differences that make each current Tank job different. Remember there are no hybrid jobs in this game by design. If an OT WAR is doing more DPS than an actual DPS Role, that is a player issue and not the system.

    It is no where defined that SE needs to follow adding one of each Role in every expansion. HW is a poor example:

    - SE learned their lesson adding a new job in between 2 versions, but...
    - Did you forget that Ninja was added in 2.4, yet HW still introduced another DPS.

    Why do I say all this? Historically in the genre, tanks makeup the smallest percentage of players. Coming down to play styles in the Role.

    There is a good possibility that 4.0 could bring in more than 3 jobs, 2 of which could be DPS. Especially with SE no longer wanting to do new jobs between major versions and classes not in the picture anymore.
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    They didn't say that Samurai is coming in Stormblood, right? Maybe the other job is Beastmaster. So just because Red Mage is a DD doesn't mean we can't have Samurai as a DD. But if it's 2 DDs in the same expansion I'll be happy.
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    Last edited by Evangela; 12-24-2016 at 11:12 PM.

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    Why does everyone think that the shortage of tanks is a result of not enough tank classes/jobs? People don't tank because it has a decent amount of responsibility attached to it. All adding another tank class/job will do is shift the actual number tanks playing to a different one.

    I really want SAM in the game, and if it's added as dps I'll finally be able to ditch DRG as my main (I prefer 2hd sword weilding dps classes), but adding it as a tank isn't gonna change the fact I don't want to main a tank....so I won't.
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    Last edited by AutoWhit; 12-24-2016 at 11:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoWhit View Post
    Why does everyone think that the shortage of tanks is a result of not enough tank classes/jobs? People don't tank because it has a decent amount of responsibility attached to it. All adding another tank class/job will do is shift the actual number of tanks to playing a different one.

    I really want SAM in the game, and if it's added as dps I'll finally be able to ditch DRG as my main (I prefer 2hd sword weilding dps classes), but adding it as a tank isn't gonna change the fact I don't want to main a tank....so I won't.
    By the same token, to go off the example of the job I'm wanting (Dancer), as much as I want to play Dancer, if it's a DPS I flat out refuse. I hate being a DPS. I mean irrationally hate. I only put up with it for friends when needed, but scurry back to my tanks and healers at the first opportunity. I also will not tackle any current expansion content as a DPS.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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