So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[NinjaTaru72]

We don't need another martial artist when we have monk. They would just end up most likely being the same job.

We don't need another magic user when we have whm. They would most likely end up being the same job... Oh wait... Blm, smn, sch.


See how that works? Lol.

Or swords? We don't need Another sword user it would be the same Job... Wait a minute....ninja gladiator darknight... Shit. They did it again.

Lol. Damn monk is the only bare handed combat class. dancer, with their moves, could easily incorporate some mnk skills(with having cross class currently and whatever they are changing it to later) and still have its own style.

Hell they could have a small blade of some sort to go with their combat style.

Wait and see, it's the best we can do.

[Emstidor]

We don't need another magic user when we have whm. They would most likely end up being the same job... Oh wait... Blm, smn, sch.


See how that works? Lol.

Or swords? We don't need Another sword user it would be the same Job... Wait a minute....ninja gladiator darknight... Shit. They did it again.

Lol. Damn monk is the only bare handed combat class. dancer, with their moves, could easily incorporate some mnk skills(with having cross class currently and whatever they are changing it to later) and still have its own style.

Oh come on that's disengenuous and you know it. "Martial artist" is a hell of a lot more specific to class identity than "mage" or "sword guy", so I don't know why you try to muddle the issue with bad examples. A much better case would be if SE teased Geomancer as a "holy-themed earth mage", or Templar as a "dragon-themed spear-wielder", and you can BET people would throw a fit over their WHM and DRG class identities getting the shaft.

People shouldn't react any better to "rhythm-themed martial artist", and if they do it's only because they're too in love with the idea of Dancer to see how bad it would be for the game. Besides, I see that as an extremely lazy way to implement a new job, and I know SE can do it better if we don't encourage them to slack off.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Geomancer as a "holy-themed earth mage".

It would be nice to have more variety. I don't think we actually have any holy themed jobs in game barring maybe the Paladin. White Mage isn't a holy(Read: God themed) job, so I don't see what a holy themed earth job could compete with.

Oh come on that's disengenuous and you know it. "Martial artist" is a hell of a lot more specific to class identity.

I'd actually argue that martial artist is the least specific of the three. Martial arts involve much more than unarmed combat and also includes any form of martial discipline that uses a weapon, such as a bo, nunchaku, kusarigama, sai, and even just a plain old sword and shield. If you've want to get really technical, "martial arts" encompasses pretty much every art, or discipline, of war.

[Mithrahn]

Oh come on that's disengenuous and you know it. "Martial artist" is a hell of a lot more specific to class identity than "mage" or "sword guy", so I don't know why you try to muddle the issue with bad examples. A much better case would be if SE teased Geomancer as a "holy-themed earth mage", or Templar as a "dragon-themed spear-wielder", and you can BET people would throw a fit over their WHM and DRG class identities getting the shaft.

Now you're either just being biased or your view/knowledge of martial arts is too narrow.
"Martial Arts" isn't any more specific than "Mage" or "Swordwielders". There are many forms of 'martial arts' as there are many forms of 'magic' and 'swordstyles', even if to you all martial arts are the same.

[Emstidor]

Now you're either just being biased or your view/knowledge of martial arts is too narrow.
"Martial Arts" isn't any more specific than "Mage" or "Swordwielders". There are many forms of 'martial arts' as there are many forms of 'magic' and 'swordstyles', even if to you all martial arts are the same.

Be that as it may, my concern (and opinion) is that these two:



aren't distinctive enough to warrant being two separate classes, at least based off what we've been shown so far.

[Lufir]

We don't need another magic user when we have whm. They would most likely end up being the same job... Oh wait... Blm, smn, sch.

See how that works? Lol.

Or swords? We don't need Another sword user it would be the same Job... Wait a minute....ninja gladiator darknight

Hell they could have a small blade of some sort to go with their combat style.

Except that is totally different. So no, that's not how it works. Having two jobs with the same exact monk skills is not the same as jobs with totally different magic skills. Black magic is different than white magic and summoning magic. You can't just bundle them in the same generalization to fit your argument. Having the lady in red to be a dancer who mimics the WoL's every move, would be like adding another job with a bow and songs. She IS that similar to a Monk. In addition, generalizing swords into the same category as Katanas (SAM) and daggers (NIN) is just flat out ridiculous.

[Yukiko]

Except that is totally different. So no, that's not how it works. Having two jobs with the same exact monk skills is not the same as jobs with totally different magic skills. Black magic is different than white magic and summoning magic. You can't just bundle them in the same generalization to fit your argument. Having the lady in red to be a dancer who mimics the WoL's every move, would be like adding another job with a bow and songs. She IS that similar to a Monk. In addition, generalizing swords into the same category as Katanas (SAM) and daggers (NIN) is just flat out ridiculous.

So, you are one of those who never use "Swiftcast" with an other job than Thaumaturge?!

[Lufir]

So, you are one of those who never use "Swiftcast" with an other job than Thaumaturge?!

...what? How did you come to this conclusion? Do you even know what the topic is about?