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    Rin Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Honestly that feels like a stretch. The identity of the Job feels very much Ishgardian. The tools are of ishgardian design, built on knowledge gleaned from the garleans, true, but also from the Ishgardian's own weapons developed for bringing down dragons and the marksman skills are based of Limsian techniques.

    In the end I don't think there is any intentional applying of Jobs of particular roles to particular nations of origin. Hell SMN is an Allagan discipline.
    Like I said, it was something of a trend I noticed during a discussion with people. I'll always see Machinist as more Garlean than Ishgardian. That's just my perspective though. Machinists don't play a major role in Ishgard outside of the job quests. Its not as though Aymeric dropped his sword and picked up a magitech gun. Its something brand new, so it doesn't have strong historical connection to Ishgard, certainly not the same way it does with Garlemald.
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Like I said, it was something of a trend I noticed during a discussion with people. I'll always see Machinist as more Garlean than Ishgardian. That's just my perspective though. Machinists don't play a major role in Ishgard outside of the job quests. Its not as though Aymeric dropped his sword and picked up a magitech gun. Its something brand new, so it doesn't have strong historical connection to Ishgard, certainly not the same way it does with Garlemald.
    The Job has virtually no connection to Garlemald beyond the fact that it too uses magitech. And if you really need a reference you might notice that most of the Ishgardian Watch under Hilda use firearms, an art only recently taught to commoners thanks to the introduction of Machinists.

    Garleans aren't the be all and end all of Magitech. Anyway, Garleans seem more interested in Gunblades than just guns.
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    The Job has virtually no connection to Garlemald beyond the fact that it too uses magitech. And if you really need a reference you might notice that most of the Ishgardian Watch under Hilda use firearms, an art only recently taught to commoners thanks to the introduction of Machinists.

    Garleans aren't the be all and end all of Magitech. Anyway, Garleans seem more interested in Gunblades than just guns.
    If you further look into the lore and science of Machinists as well, they really don't have much similarity with Garlean tech. The crux of Machinists is the aetherotransformer, which was invented by Stephinivien (The MCH guild leader) and it converts a person's aether into lightning aspected aether that then powers their weapon and gadgets. Considering Garleans have little to no aptitude for harnessing/channeling aether, they rely heavily on ceruleum to power their tech. So while Stephinivien may have gotten some ideas through Cid etc. the invention is truly his own, and the marksmanship is taught by Sthalmann/Rostnsthal, a Limsan pirate.
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