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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore?
    The one comment about Doomtrain from that event was from a single NPC making a comment about misplacing his Doomtrain minion. Not the same thing as the director saying "yeah, these two jobs would be nice for the expansion" and having one of them be confirmed.

    For in-game lore, the current Legatus we've been going against this entire expansion uses a katana and fights in a similar style to previous FF Samurai (think Jack, X-2, and XI.)

    The MCH guild was not in the game until 3.0. What you're thinking of is the cut MSK guild, which isn't the same thing.

    Furthermore, if you're going to say "oh the Ishgardian astrology tower was CLEARLY a prelude to the wildly different Sharlayan-style astrologians we become in 3.0" then I'm sorry to say but you're reaching really, reeeeeeeally hard there. You could point to any part of the map and claim that's foreshadowing for future jobs -- Merchant! Dancer! Shepherd (this one DID have a guild in 1.0 too!) Necromancer! Demonologist!

    Edit - Oh, and Red Mages have effectively no in-game lore right now either. But I have faith the dev team will take the NIN approach and add some for them leading up to it, or they'll take the MCH approach and have it come out of nowhere and fit perfectly.
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    Last edited by Powercow; 12-24-2016 at 03:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Edit - Oh, and Red Mages have effectively no in-game lore right now either. But I have faith the dev team will take the NIN approach and add some for them leading up to it, or they'll take the MCH approach and have it come out of nowhere and fit perfectly.
    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the little slide said they used a mix of Black and White magic, yes? My husband pointed out that the BLM quests in HW (I haven't done them yet) involve a rivalry between black mages and white mages. He suspects that the red mage story might pick up from that thread. It makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the little slide said they used a mix of Black and White magic, yes? My husband pointed out that the BLM quests in HW (I haven't done them yet) involve a rivalry between black mages and white mages. He suspects that the red mage story might pick up from that thread. It makes sense to me.
    That event was the war of magi, which started the 6th umbral era. Nym, Amdapoor and Mhach were at war against each over. At one point the elementals decided that enough is enough and summoned a big flood. After it the magic art became a forbidden art and everyone who used it got hunted down until the 6th astral era began and everyone calmed down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    That event was the war of magi, which started the 6th umbral era. Nym, Amdapoor and Mhach were at war against each over. At one point the elementals decided that enough is enough and summoned a big flood. After it the magic art became a forbidden art and everyone who used it got hunted down until the 6th astral era began and everyone calmed down.
    No, the conflict I was referring to is part of the level 50-60 BLM quests.
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