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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Astrologian has existed before it was in tactics, and bravery second.
    Bravery came after, but I'll give you Tactics, I forgot the Twins. Either way its a very small number compared to the two being argued. My thesis stands though, numbers don't matter.
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    Player GMERC's Avatar
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    Saltire Dalamiq
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Number of games featuring Astrologian prior to its FFXIV debut: ZERO

    Stop with the "numbers proof" on both sides. Numbers mean squat, just ask the nearest Yu-Gi-Oh healer.
    By name, Astrologian appeared once. Final Fantasy Tactics' Astrologer's JP name is different by one character from modern Astrologian's, but the name is the same (and slight tweaks to how a job is spelled out aren't really uncommon, either).

    Astral Stasis, the LV3 Limit Break ability of Astrologian, takes its name from Celestial Stasis, to the point where the JP names are identical (星天停止). Celestial Stasis was an ability of Astrologer in Final Fantasy Tactics.

    On top of this, Astrologian borrows heavily from Time Mage, as well as Oracle. Astrologian isn't new, it's just a creative package of several jobs that couldn't stand on their own.
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    I think that doman npc is hinting at samurai.

    Yoshida said in a recent interview that yugiri was gone for a while and coming back for a "interesting" reason or something. I'm leaning toward us learning about samurai the same way they threw ninja in.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Number of games featuring Astrologian prior to its FFXIV debut: ZERO

    Stop with the "numbers proof" on both sides. Numbers mean squat, just ask the nearest Yu-Gi-Oh healer.
    Exactly. In the end its whatever job Yoshida decides. Has nothing to do with how many times anything appeared.
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    Last edited by Iromi; 01-23-2017 at 03:51 AM. Reason: bypass text limit :p

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    Really amarant you're creating false samurai characters BLU and SAM are pretty much on par in introductions into the series doesn't mean samurai has appeared more than BLU.
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 01-23-2017 at 04:43 AM.

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    Riley Fuller
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Really amarant you're creating false samurai characters BLU and SAM are pretty much on par in introductions into the series doesn't mean samurai has appeared more than BLU.
    He brought up a blue/dancer hybrid from the after years. So, if hybrids aren't acceptable.. then maybe he should scrap that idea.
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    Last edited by Dorander; 01-23-2017 at 04:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    He brought up a blue/dancer hybrid from the after years. So, if hybrids aren't acceptable.. then maybe he should scrap that idea.
    Yes but BLU main mechanic is learning/using monster magic. The main mechanic for SAM is their katana.
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Samurai Lv 80
    In FF Tactic A2, there is a job called White Monk (and there is Master Monk too). I mean, colors are not only assigned to mages.
    So because we are struggling for Samurai and Blue Mage, I propose and predict the job Blue Samurai !
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    Last edited by Ceasaria; 01-23-2017 at 04:48 AM.

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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    A combo job like Bard....

    Blue Mage


    Morpher


    Um.... Blue Morpho? YEAH! THATS IT!!! BLUE MORPHO job confirmed!!!
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    I can get behind a camera version of Pictomancy, but only if one of the abilities we get out of it are giant laser from the lens. Weaponized lens flares.
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    I can get behind a camera version of Pictomancy, but only if one of the abilities we get out of it are giant laser from the lens. Weaponized lens flares.
    That'll be our tier 3 LB, We line up for just the right shot, and then BAM! Death Star Laser in the enemy's face! Or we swipe it and then explosions like Valefor laser! That sounds better!
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