So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Shippuu]

STR - DRG, MNK, SAM
VIT - PLD, WAR, DRK
DEX - BRD, MCH, NIN
INT - BLM, SMN, RDM
MND - WHM, SCH, AST

And so with 2 dps, balance is restored.

Balance in one category, but unbalancing in another.

tanks, healers, and dps are close to their ideal ratio of 1:1:2, the same as light party compositions. 3 tanks, 3 healers, 7 dps. Adding 2 new dps jobs unbalances this ratio, making it a 1:1:3 ratio.

Thus, adding 1 tank, 1 healer, and 1 dps actually makes it a true 1:1:2 ratio, thus balance is restored. See? I can do it too.

[Jandor]

tanks, healers, and dps are close to their ideal ratio of 1:1:2, the same as light party compositions. 3 tanks, 3 healers, 7 dps. Adding 2 new dps jobs unbalances this ratio, making it a 1:1:3 ratio.

Thus, adding 1 tank, 1 healer, and 1 dps actually makes it a true 1:1:2 ratio, thus balance is restored. See? I can do it too.

This is the best way.

1 new dps per tank, 1 new dps per healer.

PLD, WAR, DRK, BLU - 4
MNK, DRG, NIN, MCH - 4
BLM, SMN, RDM, BRD - 4
WHM, SCH, AST, DNC - 4

Perfect duty finder balance .

(Probably, maybe, not BLU or DNC though)

[ErikMynhier]

What happens with the next expansion then? :thinking:

Odd number off balance, even balance.

[Katana190]

Odd number off balance, even balance.

Stats really should just not be considered for this balance bs. NIN and BRD/MCH perform completely different roles yet they both use dex.
I'm more inclined to believe if we get another DPS it would be another Ranged Physical as there is only 2 of them and 3 of everything else, and with SAM more then likely coming... I highly doubt it will be made a Ranged Physical. If SAM is a DPS it will make 4 melee's while everything else only has 2-3. If it's a Tank, same story.
By making SAM a Melee using STR it will offset the balance of melee having 4 jobs within it's role like I mentioned. So please don't use this argument about balance. SE will do whatever because whatever they do it will offset the "Balance" for someone.

It's fine to make guesses because that's what everyone is doing because it's very soon till the announcement but please don't say such triggering things.

3 tanks
3 healers
3 melee
5 ranged (with RDM)

3 vit
2 str
3 dex
3 int (with RDM)
3 mnd

3 tanks
3 healers
3 melee
2 physical ranged
3 magic ranged

There are tons of ways to split the groupings. Most speculation is pointless but it seems especially pointless to base it on that.

Thank you. I agree with this comment, like I said. Anything SE do at this point will offset the "balance" for someone.

[Jandor]

3 tanks
3 healers
3 melee
5 ranged (with RDM)

3 vit
2 str
3 dex
3 int (with RDM)
3 mnd

3 tanks
3 healers
3 melee
2 physical ranged
3 magic ranged

There are tons of ways to split the groupings. Most speculation is pointless but it seems especially pointless to base it on that.

[Hierro]

I'm of the opinion that the simplest explanation tends to be the best one. Spiderman being blue mage cause bit by spider= get spider powers sounds more plausible than samurai and sam raimi conspiracy theories.

[Ogulbuk]

Samurai healer! Slash allies to health because magic!

[Tracewood]

Two more days and we'll finally get our answers. Hope Samurai (if at all) is a fun job, tank or dps. DRK kind of turned me off of the TP/MP management. If I were to tank, I want to focus on just holding hate and dpsing, not stance dancing or micro managing.

Samurai would be a good opportunity to introduce a fresh new way to tank, like relying on combos to not only deal strong damage, but to hold emnity (skillchains). A couple useful AoE weaponskills (or an AoE hate combo). A few defensive cooldowns to mitigate damage, and a high block rate with your sword. Heck counter attacks that can restore HP when used -- so every time an enemy hits you you can counter back for a fraction of it's damage and the numbers you dish restores your HP.

[ADVSS]

Two more days and we'll finally get our answers. Hope Samurai (if at all) is a fun job, tank or dps. DRK kind of turned me off of the TP/MP management. If I were to tank, I want to focus on just holding hate and dpsing, not stance dancing or micro managing.

Samurai would be a good opportunity to introduce a fresh new way to tank, like relying on combos to not only deal strong damage, but to hold emnity (skillchains). A couple useful AoE weaponskills (or an AoE hate combo). A few defensive cooldowns to mitigate damage, and a high block rate with your sword. Heck counter attacks that can restore HP when used -- so every time an enemy hits you you can counter back for a fraction of it's damage and the numbers you dish restores your HP.

I imagine SAM would be high crit based, with like bloodletter type procs on a crit or something, besides that im ok with tank or dps, really.

[Shougun]

Just to add to the balance thing though, you don't want too many jobs eating off the same main stat materia unless you want imbalanced materia consumption / have an effect on cost - or they tweak the rate of materia to approx. the new demand.

I'd just tweak the drop rates over making jobs into specific groups though, seems easier to me if I was doing that stuff.

While there's no confirmation, there is a high likelihood that PotD may not benefit someone past 60. When Heavensward launched, all the level 50 dungeons provided no experience points for quite some time because SE wants people in the new areas/dungeons. This same logic can be applied to PotD, ideally SE doesn't want people just cramming into PotD instead of actually doing the expansion content.

Tbh I'd rather keep PotD than run a billion FATEs though, so hopefully it doesn't turn into that (I can't know what contents they'll have available but I assume FATEs would be one of the EXP routes after MSQ, maybe a nonissue).