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  1. #1351
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    What happens with the next expansion then? :thinking:
    Odd number off balance, even balance.
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  2. #1352
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    3 tanks
    3 healers
    3 melee
    5 ranged (with RDM)

    3 vit
    2 str
    3 dex
    3 int (with RDM)
    3 mnd

    3 tanks
    3 healers
    3 melee
    2 physical ranged
    3 magic ranged

    There are tons of ways to split the groupings. Most speculation is pointless but it seems especially pointless to base it on that.
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    I'm of the opinion that the simplest explanation tends to be the best one. Spiderman being blue mage cause bit by spider= get spider powers sounds more plausible than samurai and sam raimi conspiracy theories.
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  4. #1354
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Samurai healer! Slash allies to health because magic!
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  5. #1355
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    Katana Azurite
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Odd number off balance, even balance.
    Stats really should just not be considered for this balance bs. NIN and BRD/MCH perform completely different roles yet they both use dex.
    I'm more inclined to believe if we get another DPS it would be another Ranged Physical as there is only 2 of them and 3 of everything else, and with SAM more then likely coming... I highly doubt it will be made a Ranged Physical. If SAM is a DPS it will make 4 melee's while everything else only has 2-3. If it's a Tank, same story.
    By making SAM a Melee using STR it will offset the balance of melee having 4 jobs within it's role like I mentioned. So please don't use this argument about balance. SE will do whatever because whatever they do it will offset the "Balance" for someone.

    It's fine to make guesses because that's what everyone is doing because it's very soon till the announcement but please don't say such triggering things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    3 tanks
    3 healers
    3 melee
    5 ranged (with RDM)

    3 vit
    2 str
    3 dex
    3 int (with RDM)
    3 mnd

    3 tanks
    3 healers
    3 melee
    2 physical ranged
    3 magic ranged

    There are tons of ways to split the groupings. Most speculation is pointless but it seems especially pointless to base it on that.
    Thank you. I agree with this comment, like I said. Anything SE do at this point will offset the "balance" for someone.
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  6. #1356
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    Bebeca Beca
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    PoTD won't be an option after 60. However, it is possible they might create the new dungeons in PoTD fashion where the trinity is irrelevant.
    Well there's the chance I can still gain exp there (just taking a wild guess here since that's all I can do at the moment) If not then I'll just either go crawl to my friends or play TT as I wait for my DF q. New dungeons in PoTD sound nice, maybe we'll get more floors and a raise level cap for it too; who knows~
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    STR - DRG, MNK, SAM
    VIT - PLD, WAR, DRK
    DEX - BRD, MCH, NIN
    INT - BLM, SMN, RDM
    MND - WHM, SCH, AST

    And so with 2 dps, balance is restored.
    Balance in one category, but unbalancing in another.

    tanks, healers, and dps are close to their ideal ratio of 1:1:2, the same as light party compositions. 3 tanks, 3 healers, 7 dps. Adding 2 new dps jobs unbalances this ratio, making it a 1:1:3 ratio.

    Thus, adding 1 tank, 1 healer, and 1 dps actually makes it a true 1:1:2 ratio, thus balance is restored. See? I can do it too.
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  8. #1358
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    PoTD won't be an option after 60. However, it is possible they might create the new dungeons in PoTD fashion where the trinity is irrelevant.
    Says who? POTD is used to level now from 1 all the way to 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Says who? POTD is used to level now from 1 all the way to 60.
    While there's no confirmation, there is a high likelihood that PotD may not benefit someone past 60. When Heavensward launched, all the level 50 dungeons provided no experience points for quite some time because SE wants people in the new areas/dungeons. This same logic can be applied to PotD, ideally SE doesn't want people just cramming into PotD instead of actually doing the expansion content.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Just to add to the balance thing though, you don't want too many jobs eating off the same main stat materia unless you want imbalanced materia consumption / have an effect on cost - or they tweak the rate of materia to approx. the new demand.

    I'd just tweak the drop rates over making jobs into specific groups though, seems easier to me if I was doing that stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    While there's no confirmation, there is a high likelihood that PotD may not benefit someone past 60. When Heavensward launched, all the level 50 dungeons provided no experience points for quite some time because SE wants people in the new areas/dungeons. This same logic can be applied to PotD, ideally SE doesn't want people just cramming into PotD instead of actually doing the expansion content.
    Tbh I'd rather keep PotD than run a billion FATEs though, so hopefully it doesn't turn into that (I can't know what contents they'll have available but I assume FATEs would be one of the EXP routes after MSQ, maybe a nonissue).
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