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  1. #1241
    Player
    Shippuu's Avatar
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    No idea how the arrows work, I believe there was a comment of, "They just re-use them after each kill." As for MCH bullets, those are made from aether, likely the same as wildfire bombs, and destroyed turrets can be repaired. Warriors, Paladins, and Dragoons all summon their weapons back to them. Chemist would be the only case where their abilities would -literally- consume the materials without any chance of refund, recyle, repair, or re-use.
    The MCH bullets are not made of aether and certainly not their wildfire bombs which are clearly machinery, not to mention other ones I forgot, such as their grenado shot, and ricochet. Aether doesn't do that, it doesn't create complex machines out of thin air. A BRD can fire an infinite number of arrows without ever "collecting them". I guess Ninja's carry an infinite number of throwing daggers for their throw dagger and death blossom, or how about their fuma shuriken? You're making excuses at this point to hand wave away all the examples that prove your nitpicking to be the weak argument it is.


    There is absolutely ways to explain even from a lore perspective on how or why a chemist's components aren't consumed. Something as simple as having a collection of items that when a type of aether is applied to them results in a certain thing happening yet doesn't destroy/consume the items involved, in which case they "retrieve" the items after throwing them just like how you tried to explain every other job that does it.

    There's zero reason Chemist couldn't work when we have Machinist in this game.
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  2. #1242
    Player GMERC's Avatar
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    Saltire Dalamiq
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 73
    There doesn't even need to be a reason at all. Item catalysts just aren't a part of the game and there is no need to try and justify why you don't run out of potions just like there's no need to explain how your shield comes back after you use Shield Lob or, as stated before, how a Ninja doesn't rapidly run out of knives for Death Blossom.

    Acting as though that is something that would make Chemist / Salve-maker less viable as a job is reaching.
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  3. #1243
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    FeliAiko's Avatar
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    IIRC Chemist was in consideration as the healer for HW before AST was chosen, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for them to revisit it again.
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  4. #1244
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I know this will come across as nitpicking, but I think the greater issue is, it'd be a stretch on realism. Every other Job/Class we can explain in combat without much difficulty. By contrast, a Chemist would require a stock of items, or at least ingredients, to constantly be making the materials they need to perform in a combat situation. Pockets and Bags can only hold so much, after all.
    lol to even mention realism in a game where the developer literally said "You know why we can breathe underwater? because magic" is a stretch in of itself.
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  5. #1245
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I know this will come across as nitpicking, but I think the greater issue is, it'd be a stretch on realism. Every other Job/Class we can explain in combat without much difficulty. By contrast, a Chemist would require a stock of items, or at least ingredients, to constantly be making the materials they need to perform in a combat situation. Pockets and Bags can only hold so much, after all.
    I say this as a citizen and active roleplayer on Balmung...... never mix RP logic with Mechanics logic. They aren't compatible so don't worry over it.
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  6. #1246
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I know this will come across as nitpicking, but I think the greater issue is, it'd be a stretch on realism. Every other Job/Class we can explain in combat without much difficulty. By contrast, a Chemist would require a stock of items, or at least ingredients, to constantly be making the materials they need to perform in a combat situation. Pockets and Bags can only hold so much, after all.
    All of these can be put into lore as "because magic". Or hell, give CHM an aethyric mixing bowl that absorbs aether and creates aethyric potions of different types based on its aethyric composition and elemental affinities, and mixes them together for different effects, or some made up BS like that :P.
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  7. #1247
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    Damien Belmont
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    Odin
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    Is it me or is the wait for this fanfest the heaviest one so far?
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  8. #1248
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    Is it me or is the wait for this fanfest the heaviest one so far?
    I'm inclined to agree. I think we all kind of knew that the first fanfest wouldn't have a lot of substantial information. They got down to the real meat of most of it in the second one, we know the majority of the content we're getting now. But now in the next fanfest they can give us the next new Job and the rest of the specifics of the stuff we've been really wanting to know about.
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  9. #1249
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Summoner Lv 70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  10. #1250
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Less than a week to find out who is right, who is wrong, and who will be so ashamed they will never talk about this topic ever again in public!!!

    I'm going to start doing random out-of-nowhere guesses:

    Theory A (4 jobs)
    • Red Mage Magic DPS
    • Blue Mage Magic DPS
    • Samurai Tank
    • Geomancer Healer (YES! Geomancer! Just like AST, randomly coming out of nowhere without anyone's guess or clues!)

    Theory B (2 jobs)
    Second job is a Blue Mage with a Katana (basically, a Sam/Blu hybrid)
    It will be a tank. And a DPS. In fact, the job system gets spun on it's head! Some jobs get dual roles! A war may be able to play as DPS! A DRG may be able to queue as Tank! And this Sam/Blu will be able to Tank or DPS!
    These *ARE* meant to be far-fetched, but we so close now that all we have left is to wait. I say we try to guess the unpredictable, see if anyone hits something right, like whomever may had guessed AST before it was revealed.
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