So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[SDaemon]

Ah, right, it was healing wind. whoops.

I don't think SE needs to implement every recurring blue magic for Blue Mage to be legitimized though. Every game that has had a Blue Mage has had game specific blue magic make up the majority of their spell repertoire. Of the most common recurring ones; Mighty Guard is a limit break, White Wind is a move of Enkidu and Frog Song is a move of Greg. Magic Hammer and Angel Whisper aren't in this game as far as I know, the rest that I've looked up are all enemy abilities. Any blue magic SE would implement would largely consist of game specific blue magic spells.

Edit: Ah Aero. Now there is a CONJ/WHM ability.

[Dualblade]

I don't think SE needs to implement every recurring blue magic for Blue Mage to be legitimized though. Every game that has had a Blue Mage has had game specific blue magic make up the majority of their spell repertoire. Of the most common recurring ones; Mighty Guard is a limit break, White Wind is a move of Enkidu and Frog Song is a move of Greg. Magic Hammer and Angel Whisper aren't in this game as far as I know. Any blue magic SE would implement would largely consist of game specific blue magic spells.

Magic Hammer is used atleast once by the last mob of Gubal Library I believe.

[Vexander]

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To be fair, your argument about Dragoons and Summoners did impress me and take me a few minutes to pick apart, as one can't argue they draw from the power of those foes they face. However, Dragoons and Summoners have existed simultaneously with Blue Mages before as well. I don't think overlap has been a concern in that regard.

As for the Raubhan being a Blue Mage idea, I have to admit, when you think on it, it does make some sense. Look at Ilberd for example. A lot of his moves are stylized after a Griffon. There was another one involving Lions as well. I think its feasible for Blue Mage to have roots in Ala Mhigo. Whether or not Raubhan and Ilberd -are- Blue Mages is a whole different debate, but I think there is some ground for it.

Or Ilberd's moves were named for his identity and not because he learned them watching an actual Griffon. I give it 50/50 odds.

[SDaemon]

Exactly SDaemon, though as the recent Interview with Yoshi-p went on to say.. he isn't sure how it (Blue Mage) would even work in the current state of the game. He said at best we'd get some kind of minigame for collecting monsters or abilities in a solo-play style situation. Which, I doubt will be coming in with 4.0, especially with what we know so far and how far along they are in development (practically done, and probably working on 4.2 as we speak). It may come in later with 5.0 at the earliest.

The last interview I recall him talking about BLU was half a year or more ago. Is there a more recent one he talks about it by chance? I'd have no qualms with a solo-esque approach to acquiring blue magic spells. I just don't think people should focus on all the recurring spells BLU tends to have, and where they exist in XIV, as they always tend to have a large repertoire of game specific spells anyway.

[GMERC]

recent

absolutely not

[Dorander]

The last interview I recall him talking about BLU was half a year or more ago. Is there a more recent one he talks about it by chance? I'd have no qualms with a solo-esque approach to acquiring blue magic spells. I just don't think people should focus on all the recurring spells BLU tends to have, and where they exist in XIV, as they always tend to have a large repertoire of game specific spells anyway.

Here's a tiny reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...and_blue_mage/

I'm still looking for the article or video they are referencing. I'll edit and link as soon as I find it.

Found the old one, it was in the live letter posted in 2014, this is what he said:

I think that blue mage is an interesting job because you can learn spells from enemies, but honestly I don't think that it really fits MMORPG party settings. If anything, I think it would work solo and it would be really fun to implement it as a job where you go around and learn abilities from every monster, so I'd definitely like to try and do this, but I'm concerned when it comes to playing in a party players would put up barriers if you haven't learned certain abilities. Additionally, in the event you are able to use abilities forever once you learn them, the difficulty of learning abilities would be high, and we wouldn't be able to balance the system so it wouldn't revolve around procuring your abilities instead of equipment. This wouldn't be practical enough to fit in an MMORPG party setting and conversely if you are swapping in only certain abilities you've learned, the true image of a blue mage would diminish, so this is something that I am concerned with.

[SDaemon]

Here's a tiny reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...and_blue_mage/

I'm still looking for the article or video they are referencing. I'll edit and link as soon as I find it.

I mean this kindly I do, but that thread really has no substance at all....

[Dorander]

I mean this kindly I do, but that thread really has no substance at all....

Sorry about that, edited for a bit more info. Still looking for a more recent interview about it.

[Vexander]

Seems more that Yoshi is pointing out the flaws in a traditional Blue Mage playstyle with an MMO setting, rather than stating it'll never be on the slate for FFXIV. Like RDM, it could be they decided that its more important to honor the aesthetic of the class over the substance.

[Iromi]

I mean this kindly I do, but that thread really has no substance at all....

Just watch the JP fanfest 2016 live stream segment of Naoki Yoshida's room, its there. Watched it myself live and he did indeed say all the stuff about BLU not coming for a while and how it would have the Profession of Monster book or some junk.

It is mentioned and shown in the reddit JP mega thread for that day also.