So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Zaine_Lionheart]

To be fair, all of the Blue/Red color from anything recent is rather ridiculous as well. OMG the poem has blue/red, rdm/blu confirmed. omg the trailer had red/blue auras red/blu confirmed.

>_> but blu wasnt confirmed and it would a travesty in xiv with the way the combat system is, thats another thing that erks me people want something so bad they dont even think of the concept of the job and how it would fit in xiv... Spoiler (it would be a train wreck)

[GMERC]

>_> but blu wasnt confirmed and it would a travesty in xiv with the way the combat system is, thats another thing that erks me people want something so bad they dont even think of the concept of the job and how it would fit in xiv... Spoiler (it would be a train wreck)

The "Learning" ability is legitimately the least important factor in making a Blue Mage work. It's doable, you just need to be a little more imaginative about it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The "Learning" ability is legitimately the least important factor in making a Blue Mage work. It's doable, you just need to be a little more imaginative about it.

BLU will be the next new gathering class!

[frankenbeans]

BLU will be the next new gathering class!

Or even a blunt damage tank wouldn't that be cool.

[Dorander]

Projection thy name is Dorander

Yes I am in complete agreement with you. You'll see what you want and dispute anything that doesn't fit with your own mental narrative. No point in trying to to convince you otherwise. Yup I cannot wait till February when it is finally revealed. My birthday is during the Fan Festival and my birthday wish is that everyone will be happy and excited for the revelations and come together as a community as we all love and support this game. Here's hoping birthday dreams do come true.

Right back at you Frakenbeans. Ignoring data files thinking they are a red herring, and so on and so on. Oh, here are a few more 'numbers' for you:

1. Final fantasy 7 - Sephiroth
2. Final Fantasy 9 - Amarant has both monk and samurai skills. So, as you brought up, could be a hybrid. However, if you want to nix the hybrids.. That's up to you.
3. Brave Exvius - Cyan
4. Final Fantasy XV - Cor Leonis
5. Theatrhythm - Auron
6. They are enemies in final fantasy Legend 1
7. They are enemies in final fantasy legend 3

So, adding those 6 (with your subtraction and assumption I was talking about Steiner) That increases Samurai's "representation" Up to 27. (or if you scrap the hybrids - 26 to your 24 for blue mage)

So, please.. continue along with your hopes for BLU. Maybe you'll get your birthday wish, or maybe you'll be disappointed.

[frankenbeans]

Right back at you Frakenbeans. Ignoring data files thinking they are a red harring, and so on and so on. Oh, here are a few more 'numbers' for you:

1. Final fantasy 7 - Sephiroth
2. Final Fantasy 9 - Amarant has both monk and samurai skills. So, as you brought up, could be a hybrid. However, if you want to nix the hybrids.. That's up to you.
3. Brave Exvius - Cyan
4. Final Fantasy XV - Cor Leonis
5. Theatrhythm - Auron
6. They are enemies in final fantasy Legend 1 and 3

So, adding those 5 (with your subtraction and assumption I was talking about Steiner) That increases Samurai's "representation" Up to 26. (or if you scrap the hybrids - 25 to your 24 for blue mage)

So, please.. continue along with your hopes for BLU. Maybe you'll get your birthday wish, maybe you'll be dissappointed.

I think you may be a little angry at this point. You shouldn't be nor do I want you to be upset. I thought we were past the counting jobs part. I never saw sephiroth or someone in FF9 use gill toss or bushido. So is it that they have a katana they are a samurai, wouldn't just giving warrior or dark knight a katana satisfy your samurai definition there see problem solved. I believe Dark knight already has a katana looking weapon you can glamour. So in a way samurai is already in the game for you.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I think you may be a little angry at this point. You shouldn't be nor do I want you to be upset. I thought we were past the counting jobs part. I never saw sephiroth or someone in FF9 use gill toss or bushido. So is it that they have a katana they are a samurai, wouldn't just giving warrior or dark knight a katana satisfy your samurai definition there see problem solved. I believe Dark knight already has a katana looking weapon you can glamour. So in a way samurai is already in the game for you.

If we go that route, SMN is BLU, because you absorb the primal's powers and gain their aether by fighting them

[Dorander]

Yes but BLU main mechanic is learning/using monster magic. The main mechanic for SAM is their katana.

Not necessarily, gil toss is a traditional SAM skill, along with a few others.

I think you may be a little angry at this point. You shouldn't be nor do I want you to be upset. I thought we were past the counting jobs part. I never saw sephiroth or someone in FF9 use gill toss or bushido. So is it that they have a katana they are a samurai, wouldn't just giving warrior or dark knight a katana satisfy your samurai definition there see problem solved. I believe Dark knight already has a katana looking weapon you can glamour. So in a way samurai is already in the game for you.

Nah, not angry. Just proving a point. Fine: in 7 Cloud does get a katana weapon and the level 2 ability from the throw materia (you brought up the enemy skill materia for blue) is gil toss. Does that make him a Samurai? I can twist things just as far. There are quite a few skills shared by current jobs as monsters out in the world. Can't you just glamour on your Thavnairian Bolero set and RP that you are a Blue Mage? See, how easy that is? Be a white mage or a black mage and say you learned Aero and stone from the wind / earth elementals. Or Fire and Blizzard from the fire/ice elementals.

If we go that route, SMN is BLU, because you absorb the primal's powers and gain their aether by fighting them

Exactly my point.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Or even a blunt damage tank wouldn't that be cool.

I avoid club/mace weapons like the plague, i dont find them interesting :P

[RaijinSupreme]

The "Learning" ability is legitimately the least important factor in making a Blue Mage work. It's doable, you just need to be a little more imaginative about it.

Agreed. The simplest way to do it would be that every ability we get that comes from a monster would just be job quest, meaning that every job quest we have would be about hunting a specific monster, and because of our soul crystal, we will be able to learn their ability.

They would be like the 1 person instanced quest, and we have to meet a certain requirement in order to get the monster to use the move on us, like get its health very low without killing it until it uses the move, or defeat it under certain times, stuff like that.

If BLU was a tank, it can even be a quest where we would have to survive a devastating high damage move in order for us to learn it.

The moves we get from leveling would be like buffs, and weaponskill actions or something.

That's how I would do it.