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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenbeans View Post
    So I went and checked his "proof".

    He can't even count correctly. He conveniently forgets to add FF8's Quistis Trepe making it 16. He doesn't Add blue mage from final fantasy explorers but yet does so on Samurai. Bringing Blue mage up to 17. There WAS NO SAMURAI in Final Fantasy 9 as Steiner was not a samurai but a Knight. -1 for samurai. If we are counting Bravely Defaults Sword master as Samurai then We count Vampire and Catmancer as Blue mage. Blue mage was in the game data of final fantasy record keeper but Ill be generous and leave it off.

    So To repeat he left off FF8 and Final Fantasy Explorers from his Blue list. Making Total it a Total of 17.
    There is No Samurai in FF9. Steiner is not a Samurai but a Knight, making his Samurai list a total of 15

    So there you go. I am willing to believe that it was just a simple counting error and was not intentional but there's your proof that Blue Mage made more appearances than Samurai.
    Final fantasy Games with Samurai in it:

    5
    6
    9
    10
    10-2
    11
    12
    lightning returns
    tactics
    legend 2
    Dissidia
    Dissidia 012
    Dissidia 2015
    Explorers
    Pictologica
    Airborne brigade
    artniks
    all the bravest
    record keeper
    mobius
    trade card game
    Tactics 2 (as Parivir)

    So, your numbers are off too, 22 times has Samurai been in a "final fantasy" game, though if you want to get technical, you can subtract parivir since it's not 'called' samurai.

    Final fantasy games with Blue Mage in it:

    5
    6
    8
    9
    10
    11
    lightning returns
    tactics advance
    tactics advance 2
    tactics S
    Type-0
    Dissidia
    Dissidia 012
    Airborne brigade
    all the bravest
    Record Keeper (the sprite is in the files but not playable)
    Pictologica
    Explorers
    Trading card game

    19 times has it been in a game with final fantasy in the title. (I even spotted you one with record keeper)

    Now who's numbers are off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Final fantasy Games with Samurai in it:

    5
    6
    9
    10
    10-2
    11
    12
    lightning returns
    tactics
    legend 2
    Dissidia
    Dissidia 012
    Dissidia 2015
    Explorers
    Pictologica
    Airborne brigade
    artniks
    all the bravest
    record keeper
    mobius
    trade card game
    Tactics 2 (as Parivir)

    So, your numbers are off too, 22 times has Samurai been in a "final fantasy" game, though if you want to get technical, you can subtract parivir since it's not 'called' samurai.

    Final fantasy games with Blue Mage in it:

    5
    6
    8
    9
    10
    11
    lightning returns
    tactics advance
    tactics advance 2
    tactics S
    Type-0
    Dissidia
    Dissidia 012
    Airborne brigade
    all the bravest
    Record Keeper (the sprite is in the files but not playable)
    Pictologica
    Explorers
    Trading card game

    19 times has it been in a game with final fantasy in the title. (I even spotted you one with record keeper)

    Now who's numbers are off?
    Your numbers are off. Surprise Surprise.

    You don't add FF7 enemy skill which is blue magic +1

    Bartz uses blue magic in Dissidia 2015 +1

    Gun Mage used blue magic in 10-2 +1

    FF9's steiner is not a samurai but a Knight -1 for samurai

    Stragos a blue mage/loremaster is in artniks +1 for blue mage
    *Stragos is also in record keeper by the way along with those blue mage sprites*

    so by that count we are at 24 for blue mage
    and 21 for Samurai.

    Heck Final Fantasy IV the after years had a blue mage dancer hybrid so 25 if you want to count that. Imagine if the class is a Blue mage dancer hybrid that uses blue ribbons/scarves like spider mans webs. Wouldn't that be awesome.

    Look we can keep this up all day but its not gonna solve anything. Look guys my whole point is not that Blue mage is coming over samurai, It's that Samurai is not a guaranteed shoe in and that there is equal possibility that it can be another job. I am not against the samurai class in fact Id like to see it eventually as a DPS (hopefully not a tank). Im saying that the samurai "proofs" are the same as blue mage "proofs" and that blue mage is just as valid. Im just here in this thread to speculate about possible jobs the spiderman shirt could represent. I'm not here to pick fights.
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    Last edited by frankenbeans; 01-23-2017 at 03:05 AM. Reason: grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenbeans View Post
    Your numbers are off. Surprise Surprise.

    You don't add FF7 enemy skill which is blue magic +1

    Bartz uses blue magic in Dissidia 2015 +1

    Gun Mage used blue magic in 10-2 +1

    FF9's steiner is not a samurai but a Knight -1 for samurai

    Stragos a blue mage/loremaster is in artniks +1 for blue mage
    *Stragos is also in record keeper by the way along with those blue mage sprites*

    so by that count we are at 24 for blue mage
    and 21 for Samurai.

    Heck Final Fantasy IV the after years had a blue mage dancer hybrid so 25 if you want to count that. Imagine if the class is a Blue mage dancer hybrid that uses blue ribbons/scarves like spider mans webs. Wouldn't that be awesome.

    Look we can keep this up all day but its not gonna solve anything. Look guys my whole point is not that Blue mage is coming over samurai, It's that Samurai is not a guaranteed shoe in and that there is equal possibility that it can be another job. I am not against the samurai class in fact Id like to see it eventually as a DPS (hopefully not a tank). Im saying that the samurai "proofs" are the same as blue mage "proofs" and that blue mage is just as valid. Im just here in this thread to speculate about possible jobs the spiderman shirt could represent. I'm not here to pick fights.
    Yeah, we could keep it up all day, I'm done arguing. Insisting on BLU, just like those who insist upon DNC, is anyone's right. You'll see what you want and dispute anything that doesn't fit with your own mental narrative. No point in trying to convince you otherwise. We'll just have to wait till February. Hopefully, the "(insert job) was confirmed! Why did they remove it! I'm gonna quit!" threads will be minimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Yeah, we could keep it up all day, I'm done arguing. Insisting on BLU, just like those who insist upon DNC, is anyone's right. You'll see what you want and dispute anything that doesn't fit with your own mental narrative. No point in trying to convince you otherwise. We'll just have to wait till February. Hopefully, the "(insert job) was confirmed! Why did they remove it! I'm gonna quit!" threads will be minimal.
    Projection thy name is Dorander

    Yes I am in complete agreement with you. You'll see what you want and dispute anything that doesn't fit with your own mental narrative. No point in trying to to convince you otherwise. Yup I cannot wait till February when it is finally revealed. My birthday is during the Fan Festival and my birthday wish is that everyone will be happy and excited for the revelations and come together as a community as we all love and support this game. Here's hoping birthday dreams do come true.
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