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  1. #651
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    I want to agree, but he also said "spider-webber". That kinda focuses more into the web/string aspect of the job rather than the "how he got powers".
    But spiderman never takes control over his opponents with his web. He either immobilizes them, traps them, cause serious damage when using it as a projectile, or flings his opponent around. He never actually takes control over their limbs and uses them to attack others, like how puppetmasters do.

    simply put, Spiderman isn't a puppetmaster himself, so I don't get how spiderman can actually allude to puppetmaster.
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  2. #652
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    DBelmont's Avatar
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    Damien Belmont
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    But spiderman never takes control over his opponents with his web. He either immobilizes them, traps them, cause serious damage when using it as a projectile, or flings his opponent around. He never actually takes control over their limbs and uses them to attack others, like how puppetmasters do.

    simply put, Spiderman isn't a puppetmaster himself, so I don't get how spiderman can actually allude to puppetmaster.
    FFXI Puppetmaster by itself does not allude to Spiderman directly, I know. However, remember AST; it was supposed to be a Time Mage that got a Corsair twist with the card mechanic. With that being said, we could always get Puppetmaster elements on top of another candidate job and get a weird mix - which in my opinion, sucks.
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  3. #653
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I wonder... will we ever get Jobs only for females?!
    I remember back in Ivalice we had such jobs...
    So long as males get a job exclusive to them as well, I wouldn't mind.
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  4. #654
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Where you are quite wrong is that there are things we "DO" know, and it seems that quite a few people have absolutely no idea what deductive reasoning skills are. You cannot twist facts to support a narrative that isn't there. Speculation isn't a blanket statement for: "I want this! So be damned the logic and facts!"

    1: After Heavenward released Yoshi and team said they were never going to do 3-4 job releases that close together ever again, and at most, we'd get 2 at a time going forward. ROG/NIN with 2.4, DRK/MCH/AST with 3.0. So, with that "FACT" we know that we can only expect 2 jobs for this expansion. Not 3 or even 4.
    Aaaannnd no !
    The problem was the release of Rogue/Ninja (class + job, ouch) several month before the 3 others jobs. Because of the adjustement to do for Ninja after, I'am sure this delayed the work for the three others and put too much work for less time than planned.
    + The event Moonfire Faire 2016 teased the number of jobs we will get for 4.0 (Yoshida said it himself)
    There is no clue except the number of Posing Rangers which is 3 !
    And if it's not three jobs for 4.0, it could be two for 4.0 and one for 4.1-4.2...
    Anyways, I'am confident for 3 jobs for Stormblood.
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  5. #655
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    Damien Belmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    Anyways, I'am confident for 3 jobs for Stormblood.
    As far as we know, they attempted to tweet that RDM is going to be one of the 2 new jobs for Stormblood and ended up removing that tweet. That could mean 2 things:

    1) It was wrong and they didn't want to tweet false information
    2) It was true and they wanted our hype to be more intense due to speculating for more than 2 jobs

    If case 1 is true, we will simply get 3 or more jobs. If 2 is the case, then they are aware that 2 jobs is a negative scenario and want to make it less of a marketing point.

    If we indeed get only 2 jobs, I expect them to make truly in-depth changes to existing jobs instead.
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  6. #656
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    Shadowlink's Avatar
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    Aleni Reinhardt
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 60
    About that tweet we may get a third class way into the expansion thats why it got removed.
    And the Spiderman shirt i think its gonna be Blue Mage, it can be Samurai because of Sam Raimi but the story bitten by a spider is much simpler.
    Blue Mage tank if a Third class comes or dps blunt dmg for monk support are my guesses.
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    Last edited by Shadowlink; 01-16-2017 at 06:33 AM.

  7. #657
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    If we indeed get only 2 jobs, I expect them to make truly in-depth changes to existing jobs instead.
    Yes, if there are truly 2 new jobs, I think this is what will happen.

    The thing to see is the time player will take in DF for his role to enter in dungeons.
    We know, 3 news jobs with 1 by role is the ideal case.
    But if there is 1 role missing, it could be a problem.

    That's why already, we couldn't have 2 new DPS, it would be insane.
    But, 1 tank + 1 dps and adjustments for all others existing jobs, it could work, even if it's less than the same configuration with 1 healer added.
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    Last edited by Ceasaria; 01-16-2017 at 06:56 AM.

  8. #658
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    So long as males get a job exclusive to them as well, I wouldn't mind.
    Bard was male only while dancer was female only (Final Fantasy Tactics)
    It was more or less the same, while bard was buffing the group, dancer was debuffing the enemy.
    Their strength was in field wide range!



    When we look at FFTA or FFTA2 they even added race only jobs (viera only, moogle only, bangaa only... and so on)
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 01-16-2017 at 06:50 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  9. #659
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    I still want to know how people think BLU is coming when Yoshida said "No BLU for a loooong time, wont be able to use the DF and I want it to have a profession of monster book if I put the job in" last month o.O

    Most I could think of is he could be trolling hardcore but PR would allow him to talk about a job that openly before announcing it?
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  10. #660
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Bard was male only while dancer was female only (Final Fantasy Tactics)
    It was more or less the same, while bard was buffing the group, dancer was debuffing the enemy.
    Their strength was in field wide range!
    Gender-restricted jobs are a terrible idea. Even if you create one male job for each female job, comparisons between the jobs are inevitable and certain to cause a ton of drama. Not to mention the potential for unfortunate implications or outright raging bias where outdated and/or culture-specific gender stereotypes come into play. It's a toxic mess best avoided.
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