So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[DBelmont]

I wonder... will we ever get Jobs only for females?!
I remember back in Ivalice we had such jobs...

For many people, including me, this is one of the most loathsome concepts an MMO can introduce.

[Vexander]

I wonder... will we ever get Jobs only for females?!
I remember back in Ivalice we had such jobs...

Cannot agree with DBelmont more. Female player-characters already have a significant deal of favoritism with having far more outfits gender-locked to them, with far fewer outfits gender-locked to males. In general their models have more attention to them while their customization options tend to be a bit more favored as well. Female Miqo'te have the bust slider, but male Miqo'te do not have the muscle slider, for example.

But I'd be against a class even if it was gender-locked to males. Gender-locking classes is just a terrible idea in an MMO.

[NorthernLadMSP]

As for a female only job . . . just no. That wouldn't work as it would just create inequality and anger in anyone who plays a male.

And to everyone in this thread who is being disrespectful and rude to those people who are just having fun speculating - seriously, get over yourself. People have the right to enter a thread whose sole purpose is to speculate on the Spider-Man shirt Yoshida was wearing, and if you don't like the speculations, then don't come back to this thread. It's as simple as that. Being brash or condescending to people is not going to get them to stop speculating, and you are just making yourself look like a villain (normally I would have chosen a much harsher word, but I'm not looking to get banned).

[DBelmont]

But I'd be against a class even if it was gender-locked to males. Gender-locking classes is just a terrible idea in an MMO.

In my opinion, the best way to deal with classes is to give them an involving theme and mechanics and make it adaptable to many character creation options.

If you lock classes to specific races or genders, you simplify the concept in a bad way. One example where FFXIV is successful: Normally, WAR could have been considered Roe male locked. That would make it the generic berserker/barbarian concept of western rpgs. Instead, by making that theme applicable to all genders and races, it becomes a lot more interesting. It could be an unaturally strong Lala or a rockstar-like Hyur or Elezen. It can still be that Roe buff dude though.

In our current instance, making Dancer female only, it would immediately turn into the obscene waifu archetype.

[Blazinhart]

1. If I remember well Yoshi stated that we're not getting the same number of Jobs as HW, which means 3. Só we can get 2 or 4, even though I believe more in 2.

2: It can be related because DNC is a kind of acrobat and has a flexible body like Spiderman. Also the main weapon can be a Whip or a kind of string/fabric that comes from a bracer. Só though we DNC lovers are dying to get it, we're not doing so Just because of will, we are looking for things to base our believes.

[Vexander]

If you lock classes to specific races or genders, you simplify the concept in a bad way.

Can't agree with this more. I think it was one of World of Warcraft's greater failings. That, and the archaic two-faction system. And the general downward spiral of the lore as the Heads of Development hit Midlife Crisis and turned the story from a compelling and rich novel narrative to comic book super heroes. A lot of other things too, actually.

Either way, FFXIV does it right. I'd be very upset if a class was race/gender locked, without EXCEPTIONAL LORE explaining in thorough detail WHY, and even then, still a terrible idea. Some classes are inherently going to play better than others.

[Dorander]

1. If I remember well Yoshi stated that we're not getting the same number of Jobs as HW, which means 3. Só we can get 2 or 4, even though I believe more in 2.

2: It can be related because DNC is a kind of acrobat and has a flexible body like Spiderman. Also the main weapon can be a Whip or a kind of string/fabric that comes from a bracer. Só though we DNC lovers are dying to get it, we're not doing so Just because of will, we are looking for things to base our believes.

We got 4 jobs in a very short time frame - ROG/NIN, DRK/MCH/AST. We are only getting 2 new ones for Stormblood.

Again, twisting fact to fit a non-existent narrative, and yes you are doing it out of sheer desire. As I said, ALL the teased jobs were on the nose. Minimal effort required to figure it out. AKA Occam's Razor. Spider man - Man bitten, given powers. Along with the constant push of the Red and blue theme, he's all but slapping us about the face with it. Though, again.. if it quacks like a duck.. must be dancer am I right?

[Cynfael]

I wonder... will we ever get Jobs only for females?!
I remember back in Ivalice we had such jobs...

This idea needs to die in a fire.

[DBelmont]

Spider man - Man bitten, given powers. Along with the constant push of the Red and blue theme, he's all but slapping us about the face with it.

I want to agree, but he also said "spider-webber". That kinda focuses more into the web/string aspect of the job rather than the "how he got powers".

[Remus]

I wonder... will we ever get Jobs only for females?!
I remember back in Ivalice we had such jobs...

Just no. Get that idea of yours and throw it in a fire and watch it burn.