So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[TarynH]

The big thing I'm pointing out with the while thing is that the stances they use while fighting isn't the stance monk has been using and the style of their moves have their differences from monks as well. It's all well and good to say they're monks in that trailer but if they are monks then I would have to say they're re-doing monks style of fighting.

If you've ever watched Yda when she takes up a fighting stance she's in the standard monk stance, not one of the stances they were using in the trailer for the girl. If both her and the guy in the trailer are monks then I would have to say that monk itself is getting an overhaul. The guy might be a monk but the girl is something different, she doesn't move or fight in the same type forms that monk does.

A few things though:
1. It's a CGI trailer. They're not exactly known for their accuracy.
2. They had to make MNK look cool. Since it's the focus. (Much like they did with DRG in HW)
3. They are changing job/class structure. Maybe they're tweaking MNK. (This is really reaching though)
4. The people who work on the game have already said they are both MNKs. Unless they're lying...

As much as I like the idea of dancer... and trust me I loved DNC on FFXI (I rocked it)... I don't think it is being showcased in the trailer.

[Pomelo]

1. It's a CGI trailer. They're not exactly known for their accuracy.

This is one of the most IMPORTANT things to remember.
The CGI trailers and what not are actually done by another team, hence the whole Black Mage gender swap conundrum and more importantly Hraesvelgr in the HW trailer (instead of Vishap and other dragons)
in fact I'd take the trailer with a grain of salt, nothing in the trailer actually has to be implemented, the only thing for a fact that we are probably getting is the Monk AF that the male wears, and that's only because I swear they showed concept for it before?

[Yukiko]

4. The people who work on the game have already said they are both MNKs. Unless they're lying...

When did they say both were and where did they say that?
At FanFest Yoshi-P confirmed the guy is MNK and its the new AF gear he will wear at level 70.

[TarynH]

When did they say both were and where did they say that?
At FanFest Yoshi-P confirmed the guy is MNK and its the new AF gear he will wear at level 70.

It was either the dev panel, or an interview, where they asked about her. (I'm pretty sure it was off limits during the Q&A, but it could have been said there.) Around the time of the Vegas fanfest, and it was one of those "oh yeah... she's a monk too" type statements. It felt very dismissive and flippant though, (could have been poorly translated) which I think is what caused people not to believe it.

[Yukiko]

It was either the dev panel, or an interview, where they asked about her. (I'm pretty sure it was off limits during the Q&A, but it could have been said there.) Around the time of the Vegas fanfest, and it was one of those "oh yeah... she's a monk too" type statements. It felt very dismissive and flippant though, (could have been poorly translated) which I think is what caused people not to believe it.

Thanks, will watch it again... (and read interviews)
Did not hear him saying that first time, maybe i missed it.

Edit: She is wearing a weapon, One Hand Gauntlet knive! Other Hand is free.

you can see it here:



and here:

[TarynH]

Thanks, will watch it again... (and read interviews)
Did not hear him saying that first time, maybe i missed it.

Edit: She is wearing a weapon, One Hand Gauntlet knive! Other Hand is free.

The "quote" (and I use that term very loosely), was Yoshida talking about the fighting in the trailer. And was most likely translated poorly as "the two monks fighting" when he could have only been referring to the one.

Either way, it's still a CGI trailer. And the weapon is probably unique to the main NPC.

[Rhaja]

One Hand Gauntlet Knife

Slight problem here. MNK's have several weapons that fit this mold including the spring action blade on drawing. Now we can take two things from this. Either she is using a custom NPC weapon much like Thancred has unmatching knives, or all bladed fist weapons migrate to DNC. The latter would technically be borderline impossible due to the Kaiser Knuckles being a claw weapon. PGL's are also described to use both Cestus style and claw style fist weapons.


I have to ask though, do you really want DNC so badly that you're okay with it being a clone of MNK? I have to stress as a practicioner of Baguazhang that her "dance" is honestly just a Piquaquan form with more sharpness than normally shown. In fact After watching it the second time I firmly believe they were emphasizing the classic duality of Chinese martial arts; Soft and Hard. Even more so that she was representing Piguaquan(soft) and he Bajiquan(hard); two styles born of one original style.

But as far as Spider-Man representing DNC I have no grounds to argue, only that I lean more towards BLU, BST, or something new. I only hope that if it is DNC it has more identity than "more flowy monk". I personally would vote more towards a caster-type that equips whips or fans and has short dances for its cast time and attack animation.

[Iromi]

When did they say both were and where did they say that?
At FanFest Yoshi-P confirmed the guy is MNK and its the new AF gear he will wear at level 70.

Nah he never said that they are both Monks...you are correct Yukiko

In fact the opposite: http://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/fa...-fan-festival/

F: The equipment the Warrior of Light was wearing, is that monk’s job specific gear?
Y: The warrior of light wears monk’s job specific gear. That will be monk’s first gear in end-game.
F: And the woman’s gear…?
Y: Have no idea. (laugh)
F: But people whose main job is monk would surely want to fight in that.
Y: The image of her the trailer is that she fights with one style of martial arts.
F: But in the end it turns out she is a Dancer!
Y: There are people that speculate that. It is very strange that those opinions mostly come from Japan, though. I haven’t heard that speculation from other regions. A lot of Japanese think it is “monk vs. dancer”. But… it has been only 10 hours since the announcement.
F: What do you think about those speculations?
Y: No comment. (laugh)

[DBelmont]

In fact the opposite: http://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/fa...-fan-festival/

That kinda makes Dancer look more likely.

[Lufir]

Nah he never said that they are both Monks...you are correct Yukiko

In fact the opposite: http://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/fa...-fan-festival/

That's Yoshida's response to every interview when asked similar questions lol.