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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I can easily see the woman in red as a, 'Dancer,' with the term, 'Dancer,' applying to a set of martial arts that are divergent to Monk, but similar in dress and weapon selection."
    But the problem with that idea is that the only reason the term 'Dancer' is even being considered is because its the name of a job in previous final fantasy games, the same way almost all the jobs in this game are. You can't call this job 'Dancer' and not have it be fundamentally the same or even reminiscent of the job in other final fantasy games. That would go against the job selection that has been in place since the beginning.

    So with your theory, you could see her being of a different job than Monk, and I'm willing to accept that, provided a substantial amount of evidence as to why it isn't monk, it just wouldn't and shouldn't be called 'Dancer', for its nothing like the job of the same name in the other games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    But the problem with that idea is that the only reason the term 'Dancer' is even being considered is because its the name of a job in previous final fantasy games, the same way almost all the jobs in this game are. You can't call this job 'Dancer' and not have it be fundamentally the same or even reminiscent of the job in other final fantasy games. That would go against the job selection that has been in place since the beginning.

    So with your theory, you could see her being of a different job than Monk, and I'm willing to accept that, provided a substantial amount of evidence as to why it isn't monk, it just wouldn't and shouldn't be called 'Dancer', for its nothing like the job of the same name in the other games.
    I was just giving a reason as to why people might watch the trailer and see, 'Dancer,' instead of, 'Two Monks.' My own first impression was dancer as well, but that was also a result of the very different style in dress. FFXIV tends to take classes from other games and adapt them to FFXIV itself, so I imagine its quite possible to include, 'Dancer,' and it being different than in past games. As an example, Red Mage HAS to follow this standard, just because the role system makes it impossible for them to be a true hybrid. In other cases we see some classes like Time Mage rolled into others like Astrologian. I could see Dancer having a heavy martial arts vibe in FFXIV, IF SE decided to go that way with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I could see Dancer having a heavy martial arts vibe in FFXIV, IF SE decided to go that way with it.
    ah, so its more so a prediction based on desire and "what IF's", and the fact that SE has gone against the grain in the past, than it is speculation based on knowledge and evidence.

    ok, that's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    ah, so its more so a prediction based on desire and "what IF's", and the fact that SE has gone against the grain in the past, than it is speculation based on knowledge and evidence.

    ok, that's fine.
    Desire may hold a part of it. Not for me. I'm happy with Red Mage, and I can't say there is a single class/job I -want- added to the game anymore now. If Dancer were added I might try it, even level it to cap, but I think I'd stick with my White/Black/Red Mage set of classes. I'll be looking forward to Discipline of Magic classes as they're added, of course, but I doubt I'll take any for my main like I do Red/White/Black Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
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    Unfortunately, dancers as they were in the past, having a high focus on inflicting Standard Status Effects and other debuffs wouldn't really work in this game, due to the fact that every status is very heavily useless, or already supplied by other jobs, which would make the Dancer equivalent worthless. As an example, having every debuff in the game is a no go, because there's already a job that can do all that, Machinist, and the vast majority of those effects except stun/silence/dis/RM aren't effective. Considering that, Dancer would pretty much have to be reimagined in order to really fit in this game.
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