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  1. #311
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    Elesis Blazinheart
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    My thoughts:

    If Yoshida is trying to do the same thing he did in 2014 Fanfests, the first t-shirt is related to the name of the Job (Batman = DRK, Scarlet Witch = RDM), while the second one is related to abilities/weapon (007 = Gun = MCH). By that, imo, if you think of Spider-Man he uses spider webs as a kind of whip, so I think the New job May use a Whip as weapon.

    If you look carefully to the teaser, you\\'ll see the blond woman attacking with a kind of fabric-whip like and that "whip" comes out of her arm, which reminds me of how Spider man uses his webs. In the Stormblood logo, she appears holding st in her hand and that thing goes around her arm ( like a Whip).

    Tinking about Jobs Who uses a Whip-like as weapon, there\\'s DNC in FFT.
    That\\'s my guess.
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  2. #312
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    Also Yoshida said st that made me think that maybe he will surprise us with two New Jobs, besides RDM. He said "he (Sam Raimi) isn\\\\'t alone...(Refering to another Spideran director, Webber i think is his (sur)name).

    I really hope they put also a Healer (DNC) and a Tank (SAM), because we have plenty DPSs and I prefer playing as Tank (my favorito role) or as Healer (but only going for that if they put DNC).
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  3. #313
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    Spider man does have his trade mark spider sense to let him dodge incoming attacks... Perhaps it's a throwback to FFXI's Samurai skill combo Seigan + Third eye?

    Perhaps Samurai is actually a Garlean based job that made full use of Pureboold third eye mutation giving them increased spatial recognition.

    Spatial reasoning is a category of reasoning skills that refers to the capacity to think about objects in three dimensions and to draw conclusions about those objects from limited information. Someone with good spatial abilities might also be good at thinking about how an object will look when rotated.

    (FFXI Samurai skill discriptoin)
    Seigan (正眼) (Lit: Angle of the eyes) is a basic defensive stance. Specifically it is the preparation for an enemy's attack by aiming your sword at their eyes. This stance is also done with the left foot back and the right foot forward, giving the defender a much better ability to step backwards while limiting their ability to attack. It is common to assume this stance immediately after drawing


    Third Eye Anticipates and dodges the next attack directed at you.

    Seigan effect on: When active, user will anticipate and evade the next physical attack against them.

    (what follows is a break down of skill usage in FFXI)
    Third Eye receives various enhancements if Seigan is active (see below).
    Will not negate any magical attacks or spells (single target or area effect), but the effect will remain after being struck by one.
    Unlike "shadow" effects such as Utsusemi or Blink, Third Eye can anticipate and negate most multi-hit physical attacks entirely, regardless of how many hits the attack consists of. For instance, it is capable of fully negating damage from a foe's 8-hit Asuran Fists. (Shadow effects' ability to fully absorb multi-hit attacks depends on how many shadows remain.)
    However, if the user of Third Eye is struck by a physical attack that is AoE in any way (conal or radial), it will remove the Third Eye effect, and the user will not avoid any damage.

    Wearing the Saotome Haidate allows the Third Eye user a 25% chance to counter an attack instead of simply anticipating it. It must be worn at the time of the attack, rather than the time Third Eye is used. Because of this, if you have the Saotome Haidate, macroing it into your Seigan macro is a generally good idea, macroing back in your normal pants for your Hasso macro.
    Does not stack with Utsusemi or Blink (Utsusemi will overwrite Third Eye, but Third Eye will not overwrite Utsusemi).
    Third Eye recast can be reduced with Merit Points by 2 seconds per level, down to a minimum of 50 seconds.
    Effect with Seigan On

    Note that a two-handed weapon must be kept equipped for Seigan to function.
    The recast time for Third Eye will be halved. Seigan must be active prior to using the ability for the recast to be halved.
    Note that the recast is halved, not simply reduced by 30 seconds. If you have merited Third Eye recast down to 50 seconds, having Seigan active will make it 25 seconds, not 20 seconds.
    There is a chance for Third Eye to remain active even after anticipating an attack. In addition, there is a chance for you to counter an anticipated attack. Seigan must be kept active in order to possibly receive these benefits; it is not enough to merely use Third Eye while Seigan is active.


    The chance that the player will keep the Third Eye effect even after anticipating tends to gradually decrease from the time that Third Eye is used. 5-6 anticipations is generally regarded to be a good/lucky streak, but note that it is always possible to get only one anticipation even if attacked immediately after using Third Eye.
    Counter rate with Seigan active is around 15%.
    When an attack is countered, the chance for Third Eye to remain seems to be lower than if the attack were simply anticipated.
    If a multi-hit attack is anticipated, Third Eye may still remain in effect, but the chance seems to be reduced. It may be that each hit in the attack has a chance to remove Third Eye.
    The damage from the Counter is also considered Blunt damage.
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  4. #314
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    In the interview he said that the new class is a "spider webber", so I think the new job might use strings. Puppeteer comes to mind, but then again Samurai/Blue Mage and Dancer have been more popular and he said he doesn't want another pet class for a while (?). Apart from that, I only know assassin type classes who use strings as weapons, but we already have ninja. I think Blue Mage/Beastmaster/Samurai are possible, but I don't really see the connection, since all of his shirts have been kind of "in your face" hints so far that have been obvious. Or maybe they will do a new job or one that no one thought about?
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  5. #315
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
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    Kind of, except both the batman and bond tshirts refer to famous iconigraphy within the series (that being the dark knight mantle, and the opening segment of bond (as well as man with the golden gun), rather than the weapon itself). Scarlet witch is the only outlier as scarlet witch is literally an alternate way to say red mage.

    With that information, spiderman could mean anything from his webs, to his villains, to his catchphrases.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 01-01-2017 at 01:06 AM.

  6. #316
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Kind of, except both the batman and bond tshirts refer to famous iconigraphy within the series (that being the dark knight mantle, and the opening segment of bond (as well as man with the golden gun), rather than the weapon itself).
    Not really. You seem to be forgetting that in the case of DRK and MCH, the T-Shirts were not the ONLY hint. In the case of the 007 t-shirt, he posed with a finger gun, for the batman t-shirt he said to think of the Nolan movies (which all have the dark knight namedrop in the title). So the combination of the hints made it pretty much as obvious as red mage was.

    There are no additional hints this time to my knowledge (have not personally seen this stream), so the t-shirt is all we have to go by, and the only other time we had that was with scarlet witch - so it makes sense that it would be a fairly direct translation of the spiderman identity. Whatever that means.
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  7. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
    so I think the New job May use a Whip as weapon.
    soooo dominatrix/dominator?
    Interesting >:^]
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  8. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
    My thoughts:

    If Yoshida is trying to do the same thing he did in 2014 Fanfests, the first t-shirt is related to the name of the Job (Batman = DRK, Scarlet Witch = RDM), while the second one is related to abilities/weapon (007 = Gun = MCH). By that, imo, if you think of Spider-Man he uses spider webs as a kind of whip, so I think the New job May use a Whip as weapon.

    If you look carefully to the teaser, you\\'ll see the blond woman attacking with a kind of fabric-whip like and that "whip" comes out of her arm, which reminds me of how Spider man uses his webs. In the Stormblood logo, she appears holding st in her hand and that thing goes around her arm ( like a Whip).

    Tinking about Jobs Who uses a Whip-like as weapon, there\\'s DNC in FFT.
    That\\'s my guess.
    I would be all over a job using a whip as weapon, it's one of my favorite weapons in RPGs/MMOs, sadly it's not picked up often. I also hope that they will introduce a job using fans one day.
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  9. #319
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    The name of the director of the film LITERALLY spells out the name of one of the most anticipated classes, and people are trying to dismiss that as pure coincidence? C'mon guys, everyone knows how much Japan LOVES its puns. This is right up YoshiP's alley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
    My thoughts:

    If Yoshida is trying to do the same thing he did in 2014 Fanfests, the first t-shirt is related to the name of the Job (Batman = DRK, Scarlet Witch = RDM), while the second one is related to abilities/weapon (007 = Gun = MCH). By that, imo, if you think of Spider-Man he uses spider webs as a kind of whip, so I think the New job May use a Whip as weapon.

    If you look carefully to the teaser, you\\'ll see the blond woman attacking with a kind of fabric-whip like and that "whip" comes out of her arm, which reminds me of how Spider man uses his webs. In the Stormblood logo, she appears holding st in her hand and that thing goes around her arm ( like a Whip).

    Tinking about Jobs Who uses a Whip-like as weapon, there\\'s DNC in FFT.
    That\\'s my guess.
    Seven from FF Type-0

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