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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    (..) The shirts are marvel themed, and Blue Mage is a job that when attacked gains the power of the attacker. There are not a lot of marvel characters that gain powers that way so while it isn't set in stone, I think the mental gymnastics are silly.
    Dont you think "Rogue" from X-Men would be much better for Blue Mage?
    First thing you think at when seeing a spider is "Spider-Net", so its most likely some sort of "capturing".
    The Problem we have here is that Yoshi-P was not saying or acting anything that fits in that theory, he was pointing to the spiderman original movies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Dont you think "Rogue" from X-Men would be much better for Blue Mage?
    First thing you think at when seeing a spider is "Spider-Net", so its most likely some sort of "capturing".
    The Problem we have here is that Yoshi-P was not saying or acting anything that fits in that theory, he was pointing to the spiderman original movies...
    The Spider-Man shirt shows a person their deepest inner job desires, no matter what they may be...
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  3. #233
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    The Spider-Man shirt shows a person their deepest inner job desires, no matter what they may be...
    Wait so the spider-man shirt means Geomancer?! YOSHI BE PRAISED! My dreams are coming true!

    /s
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  4. #234
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    There is no evidence relating the t-shirt to movie references only, just speculation. And even if we only considered movie references, a director's name that resembles the word "samurai" is not spectacular.

    That said, Rogue is not a Blue Mage in the sense that Spiderman is. Spiderman received his powers after being bitten by a spider (he was attacked). Rogue needs to make physical contact with mutants for prolonged periods of time to receive their powers (she attacks them). Rogue's gain of power is also not permanent unless she kills the mutant with her power. However, Kimari from FFX gets Blue Magic powers by attacking enemies with Lancet, so maybe a parallel can be drawn there...

    And, no, the first thing I think about when seeing a spider is "spider bite". I have good reason to think most people agree, seeing as how many people are afraid of spiders while their webs pose no threat to us.
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    That said, Rogue is not a Blue Mage in the sense that Spiderman is. Spiderman received his powers after being bitten by a spider (he was attacked). Rogue needs to make physical contact with mutants for prolonged periods of time to receive their powers (she attacks them). Rogue's gain of power is also not permanent unless she kills the mutant with her power. However, Kimari from FFX gets Blue Magic powers by attacking enemies with Lancet, so maybe a parallel can be drawn there...
    Some blue abilities aren't gained by being attacked by them because they're not offensive abilities (pearl wind, big guard.) And Rogue vs Spiderman: Rogue can gain abilities on an ongoing basis, Spiderman was essentially one time and done. So there are ways that Rogue fits a bit better, but Spiderman is so ambiguous it leads to continual speculation.
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  6. #236
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    To me the Samurai/Sam Raimi connection is too solid to not be the correct reference. I don't know how people see it as being "far fetched" when Samurai has been hinted via an in-game event in the past. Most of the other possibilities seem more far fetched than that.

    Though Blue Mage would be awesome. I'm not sure how it would fit into the framework of FFXIV, but it would be super cool to see it.
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyha View Post
    To me the Samurai/Sam Raimi connection is too solid to not be the correct reference. I don't know how people see it as being "far fetched" .
    Well, because all the previous shirts have never been like that. Batman was the Dark Knight, 007 was MCH and AST (Cuz James Bond uses a gun and AST as the tarot villain in live or let die) Scarlet Witch , Red Mage...all of them have had to do with fictional characters related to the shirt. Not actors, directors, writers...etc. This would be the first time, which is possible but hence.."Far fetched"

    People were relating it to BLU because Spider-Man got his powers from being bitten, but Yoshida said in the Naoki Yoshida room segment on the Live Stream he mused ideas for BLU saying if it came out he would make it a solo job and maybe have some Professor Book or something? And that he was not putting it in any time soon...

    Anyway, he never disclosed info like this on something if they are using it for hype.

    I only saw it as dancer because the second my boyfriend saw the shirt he was pulling up the dance scenes from Spider-Man 3 and all the gifs of dancing Spider-Man we all always posting in our group chats lol. Plus in the older cartoons, and new ones..Spider-Man dances a lot to taunt and mess with his enemies. It's been a thing on the internet for a loooong time now.

    Sure, Samurai has been hinted in game..it will be coming no doubt about that. I think it's gonna be DNC and SAM, just how 007 was for 2 jobs as well ^^
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  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Sure, Samurai has been hinted in game..it will be coming no doubt about that. I think it's gonna be DNC and SAM, just how 007 was for 2 jobs as well ^^
    Can you provide a source to the 007 shirt. As everything referenced to it was for MCH. When he wore it, he even made a few gun references.

    I don't believe the shirt was intended as any reference at all to AST. Many sites reporting it stated it was a completely unexpected announcement.
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  9. #239
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    Can you provide a source to the 007 shirt. As everything referenced to it was for MCH. When he wore it, he even made a few gun references.

    I don't believe the shirt was intended as any reference at all to AST. Many sites reporting it stated it was a completely unexpected announcement.
    It was in the key note at London.

    If you have access to that live stream or can find it you can most likely see it.
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Wait so the spider-man shirt means Geomancer?! YOSHI BE PRAISED! My dreams are coming true!

    /s
    ......How the hell did you get that??? Also what did you mean Gmerc?

    I think I'll go with the the previous thread idea, that its freelancer, since Spiderman works as one. Not to mention SE did say they were revamping the crossclass skills.
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