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  1. #221
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    aesteval's Avatar
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Webbing creation is chemistry. Granted the shooters are engineering.
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  2. #222
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
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    I mean it's narrowed down to the ones mentioned in the rising I guess?
    And I suppose someone probably already linked: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs...w/1036771.html
    So we know the "Sam Raimi" link is ruled out....as yoshi-p said that wasn't what he was aiming at.
    No. Sam Raimi isn't ruled out. This is a translation of the section about the shirt:

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi-P
    Oh, it does not matter (laugh). Because the director of "Spider-Man" is not alone. It may be a spider's nest. Even though I just said "FF" seeming job, "Spider's nest" is a story (lol). Well, I wonder if they could imagine and get excited.
    Note "Director of Spider-man is not alone" and reference to a story titled Spider's Nest. Searching for stories with Spider's Nest in the title leads to Girl in the Spider's Web (sequel to girl with the Dragon Tattoo) its original Swedish title translates to "That which does not kill us."

    It looks like the Shirt may be a double reference to both Samurai and Blue Mage (which could easily be a tank).
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 12-29-2016 at 05:22 AM.

  3. #223
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionFury1 View Post
    1) If we are in fact only getting 2 new jobs (based on the tweet), wouldn't it be weird that the only job that exclusively comes out of stormblood would be Samurai?
    People are putting too much merit in a tweet from SE's US social networking department, and ignoring the actual comments from Yoshida that imply there's going to be 3 jobs and not 2. On top of that, Yoshida also directly stated that the new jobs in Stormblood would all be started in ARR areas, later confirming RDM starts in Ul'dah. If it's 3 jobs again (likely) Then we will likely see 1 new job in each city state.

    2) Stormblood currently seems to be an expansion pack which is borrowing from the world and concepts of Ivalice. You can hear it in its music where there are lots of horns and violins giving sort of a (Royal) sound,
    This is a tremendous reach, and even if the music were a nod towards Ivalice games, there's nothing about Blue Mages that are synonymous with Ivalice.

    3) Adding to the Raubahn/Immortal Flames/Blue Mage Theory: Raubahn's weapons are also called Tizona which is the Blue Mage mythic (Relic equivalent in ff14) weapon from FFXI. The weapon style is also a scimitar and not a sword which is a Blue Mage style of weapon.
    The Raubhan stuff is always a reach, it's a tribute/nod to FFXI and that's pretty much it. Tizona was a trophy from an enemy he bested, and has nothing actually hinting towards Blue Mages aside from names of stuff. This ignores the actual potential hints that Blue Mages may be a thing in Thavnair, through numerous references and characters who are mastering alchemy and techniques involving soul essences.

    After giving it some thought, Yoshi-P and the developers like to add jobs that "fit" into the lore of the expansion and Blue Mage actually does that really well, but Samurai? That's a stretch. I am still highly convinced we'll be getting Samurai, but I think it would have to come with another job like Blue Mage if it were to be introduced into stormblood.
    Samurai makes just as much sense as us having Ninja, so that argument is pointless too. On top of this, Yoshida straight up talked about Blue Mage at the fanfest as something he'd like to add in the distant future, and reiterated his intent on making it a solo-content only job, where you'd travel the world collecting monster abilities as a "Professor of Monsters". He generally wouldn't discuss it openly like that if it's going to be added in Stormblood and revealed in 2 months. Yet with questions regarding Samurai, he acts coy and/or deflects, which is probably pretty telling.
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  4. #224
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    I know after the Scarlett Witch shirt which was obviously Red Mage, many who are posting here went the log way around to deny it and to inject elaborate ways in which it wasn't the obvious.


    Someone a few posts up said it best, sometimes a rose is a rose. The shirts are marvel themed, and Blue Mage is a job that when attacked gains the power of the attacker. There are not a lot of marvel characters that gain powers that way so while it isn't set in stone, I think the mental gymnastics are silly.
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  5. #225
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    Colino Nyea
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    It's the edgey teenager job.
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  6. #226
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    I want Samurai TANK, that being said i don't see how it could be anything other than Blue Mage TANK. Good old spidey got his abilities from a spider bite, even has the line of with "With great power comes great responsibility." (job quest names would literally write themselves). Mind you in my head, BLU and RDM DPS makes the most sense with SAM TANK following them (given what hints have been teased). However even in this setup the idea of two DPS at launch seem like a nightmarish mess waiting to happen in the DF ques.
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  7. #227
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    I have a thought about the shirt's suggestion that is wildly out there, and based on something very minor, though I'm unsure how it would work out.

    Let's not look at Spider-Man, but look at Peter Parker. What is Peter Parker's profession? Let me quote Marvel's own site for those unfamiliar with the history.

    "To help his Aunt May with finances, Peter took a freelance job at the Daily Bugle selling pictures of himself as Spider-Man to publisher J. Jonah Jameson."

    What if the new job is Freelancer? Think about it for a moment. They want to compact cross-class skills. Why not make a job based on someone that could do anything? If it starts at 50, it means they can add the skills commonly used to that at start. I have no idea how you'd get cross-class before then though.

    Though has there been confirmation that the second job will start at 50? It could start at level 1, and replace the class system entirely. It can use all weapons, and just like now, you get your quests from that guild's leader. But rather than gear, you learn the general skills that would've all been cross-classed with each quest, rather than leveling 2-3 jobs to get everything. All 1-30 new characters post-expansion are freelancers rather than a class, but they can still choose a starter weapon.

    This way, people won't have the excuse that they don't have a skill, because they can learn it all with one class at the appropriate level.

    I'm not sure what they could do post-30 though, other than adding some more abilities.

    Once you switch jobs, the ability that you would've had will be placed in the same place as now.

    This is just a rough idea I thought of during my break, but that's almost over so maybe I can add more later.
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  8. #228
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Anyone know what the JP are guessing? I know they've been saying DNC for a while now since the storm blood trailer.
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  9. #229
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    People are putting too much merit in a tweet from SE's US social networking department, and ignoring the actual comments from Yoshida that imply there's going to be 3 jobs and not 2.
    I agree and 3 jobs would be ideal imo. The one role that could possibly not make it into the picture this expansion is a Healer job. The Healer Role is in the worst state of the 3 imo. Balancing and identity being the major areas of concern. Especially min/max raid groups using AST Main/SCH Off for the benefits.

    While some ppl will argue about DF queues and a new healer can bring more players into the role. I'd rather have them address the issues of the 3 jobs within the Role first. My opinion is not even based on the want of 2 DPS and 1 Tank. That doesn't even matter to me.

    These issues might already be addressed with the new 60-70 abilities each healer job receives and changes to the existing actions they have planned. Why I stated it only as a possibility.
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  10. #230
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    Rin Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    On top of that, Yoshida also directly stated that the new jobs in Stormblood would all be started in ARR areas, later confirming RDM starts in Ul'dah. If it's 3 jobs again (likely) Then we will likely see 1 new job in each city state.
    It was confirmed Red Mage starts in Ul'dah? I'd love a source for that.
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