So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Vexander]

Machinist is an ishgardian Job. Infact a Garlean wouldn't even be able to use a Machinists gear without substancial modification since it is all powered by the Machinist's Aetheric reserves.

Like I said, I acknowledge that its based in Ishgard. However, the technology is magitech. It is literally, magitech. It has been adapted by the Ishgardians to draw off their own aether rather than on ceruleum batteries or crystals, but that doesn't stop it from being magitech. That's why I felt it belonged with Garlemald in the list better. That, and Ishgard already has an iconic DPS class in Dragoon. Kind of sad it didn't get a healer class, but they could always end up adding one down the line.

[Empress]

I really don't understand why people would want a class that would be dead in a month because the class abilities itself are Monster Skills which would be either nerfed to hell, or broken. Theres barely an counter balance: Bad Breath = all status effects?! Even if they don't last long and monsters can grant immunity, the ability itself can fall into either BROKEN/WEAK categories. So many monster abilities are either weak in the game to begin with they would have to be fully reworked before release for the class itself. Wouldn't even be worth it in the end because people would be complaining BLU would be too weak to play and eventually give up on it and move on causing it to be dead upon release

[Zojha]

Infact a Garlean wouldn't even be able to use a Machinists gear without substancial modification since it is all powered by the Machinist's Aetheric reserves.

The question is: Is it a conscious effort or not? Because as far as I'm aware Garleans are unable to "control" their aether properly - they still "have" it. Since the lore book, some are even capable of engaging in the "arcane arts".

I call grey area!

[Belhi]

Like I said, I acknowledge that its based in Ishgard. However, the technology is magitech. It is literally, magitech. It has been adapted by the Ishgardians to draw off their own aether rather than on ceruleum batteries or crystals, but that doesn't stop it from being magitech. That's why I felt it belonged with Garlemald in the list better. That, and Ishgard already has an iconic DPS class in Dragoon. Kind of sad it didn't get a healer class, but they could always end up adding one down the line.

Honestly that feels like a stretch. The identity of the Job feels very much Ishgardian. The tools are of ishgardian design, built on knowledge gleaned from the garleans, true, but also from the Ishgardian's own weapons developed for bringing down dragons and the marksman skills are based of Limsian techniques.

In the end I don't think there is any intentional applying of Jobs of particular roles to particular nations of origin. Hell SMN is an Allagan discipline.

The question is: Is it a conscious effort or not? Because as far as I'm aware Garleans are unable to "control" their aether properly - they still "have" it. Since the lore book, some are even capable of engaging in the "arcane arts".

I call grey area!

The lore book is unclear, implying indirectly that some Garleans can channel Aether. Everything has Aether. The world is literally made of the stuff. Its the very essence of life.

As for the using of the tools, I suspect it requires a basic ability to channel Aether. Most Garleans seem to be on the same page as a certain bard/rogue in the WoL's acquaintance. They can even use an Aetheryte.

[Vexander]

Honestly that feels like a stretch. The identity of the Job feels very much Ishgardian. The tools are of ishgardian design, built on knowledge gleaned from the garleans, true, but also from the Ishgardian's own weapons developed for bringing down dragons and the marksman skills are based of Limsian techniques.

In the end I don't think there is any intentional applying of Jobs of particular roles to particular nations of origin. Hell SMN is an Allagan discipline.

Like I said, it was something of a trend I noticed during a discussion with people. I'll always see Machinist as more Garlean than Ishgardian. That's just my perspective though. Machinists don't play a major role in Ishgard outside of the job quests. Its not as though Aymeric dropped his sword and picked up a magitech gun. Its something brand new, so it doesn't have strong historical connection to Ishgard, certainly not the same way it does with Garlemald.

[Belhi]

Like I said, it was something of a trend I noticed during a discussion with people. I'll always see Machinist as more Garlean than Ishgardian. That's just my perspective though. Machinists don't play a major role in Ishgard outside of the job quests. Its not as though Aymeric dropped his sword and picked up a magitech gun. Its something brand new, so it doesn't have strong historical connection to Ishgard, certainly not the same way it does with Garlemald.

The Job has virtually no connection to Garlemald beyond the fact that it too uses magitech. And if you really need a reference you might notice that most of the Ishgardian Watch under Hilda use firearms, an art only recently taught to commoners thanks to the introduction of Machinists.

Garleans aren't the be all and end all of Magitech. Anyway, Garleans seem more interested in Gunblades than just guns.

[AlphaFox]

Sadly when it comes to blue and status effects, sure during a normal FF game they may be amazing because most enemies can be affected but here in an MMO setting, I feel they would just be flavor. Like a BLU who were to use a Wyvern Fire breath would be no more amazing in power than a WAR's overpower (maybe more potency depending on role), mainly that a BLU will learn skills which have to basically attack or do what we already are used to. Debuff, silence, stun and the like which could be handled by a MCH or others already set. Don't get me wrong though, it could work out well in ways we never thought and I would still welcome a BLU cus it is still a change of pace but I am so used to them having all these special effects from skills as well.

[Shippuu]

The Job has virtually no connection to Garlemald beyond the fact that it too uses magitech. And if you really need a reference you might notice that most of the Ishgardian Watch under Hilda use firearms, an art only recently taught to commoners thanks to the introduction of Machinists.

Garleans aren't the be all and end all of Magitech. Anyway, Garleans seem more interested in Gunblades than just guns.

If you further look into the lore and science of Machinists as well, they really don't have much similarity with Garlean tech. The crux of Machinists is the aetherotransformer, which was invented by Stephinivien (The MCH guild leader) and it converts a person's aether into lightning aspected aether that then powers their weapon and gadgets. Considering Garleans have little to no aptitude for harnessing/channeling aether, they rely heavily on ceruleum to power their tech. So while Stephinivien may have gotten some ideas through Cid etc. the invention is truly his own, and the marksmanship is taught by Sthalmann/Rostnsthal, a Limsan pirate.

[TThibi]

The leak I read concerning 4.0 said Redmage would be shown off at Japan Fanfest, Yoshi would wear a shirt hinting at Samurai, he did not do that he did something unexpected The Spider man shirt is a hint at FFXIV's form of the Dancer job. Which according to the leak uses a whip as it's weapon while healing exclusively with dances. Dancer is supposed to be a close range healer. Spider man is very agile and dextrous dancing around his opponents and binding them with his webs, very much like a whip. Congrats everyone you got a hint for Dancer instead of the planned for Samurai T shirt. The document has been lost to facebook and I can't find it in the morass of wall posts of various glamours so I can't post it. Needless to say I am thrilled since nobody has any better ideas I'll just consider the documents claims to be fact. Happy day. In case anyone wants to challenge the veracity of said document, all other new revelations revealed at fanfest were also clearly and accurately predicted on said document released a week before JP fanfest. With exception of the colaboration event, that caught me by surprise, nothing else really surprised me aside from the wardobe change, but if my surprise plans were leaked to facebook by anonymous persons I'd do things to mess with whoever did it too. Further evidence for Dancer exists with SE's obsession with FFX going into fanfest specificly regarding Pyreflies and underwater breathing, it's significant because of Yuna's use of dance to summon pyreflies and not only release lost souls from the waters, but also to heal.

[Kazrah]

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