So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Powercow]

There is 0 hints about Samurai in the game.

But I mean, that's just idle musings. I mean, who would believe he'd actually add red mage after saying something like that?

[Iromi]

But I mean, that's just idle musings. I mean, who would believe he'd actually add red mage after saying something like that?

Still does not fit in this expansion at all what so ever, again unless I am missing something in the story and side quests? It would fit in more with 5.0. They also said doomtrain is coming in that Dev Panel event..and he also confirmed not till 5.0 lol.

So I am looking for something in the recent story, as I originally said..like AST, NIN and MCH. So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore? Again, I'll say my examples..how the AST was in the towers, MCH guild...etc....

Sorry, I am not saying its NOT coming, I am just asking if it was mentioned like how the other jobs were in the story and how it fits in ^^;

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Still does not fit in this expansion at all what so ever, again unless I am missing something in the story and side quests? It would fit in more with 5.0. They also said doomtrain is coming in that Dev Panel event..and he also confirmed not till 5.0 lol.

So I am looking for something in the recent story, as I originally said..like AST, NIN and MCH. So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore? Again, I'll say my examples..how the AST was in the towers, MCH guild...etc....

Sorry, I am not saying its NOT coming, I am just asking if it was mentioned like how the other jobs were in the story and how it fits in ^^;

Ninja didnt fit in until they added it. they had to add story to add it :P

AST was a sharlayan thing, supposed to be hidden from the rest, they werent in the towers. the sharlayans hunted the 2 that came to eorzea for that very reason. even machinist was a new thing thought up by the ishgardians.

[Iromi]

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Ninja fit in just fine the way they added it tho - they hinted it at it so long ago with Thancred and Doma. The doman's came and brought ninja, hehe so at least they fit it in before ^^

Their story was slowly introduced..it wasn't just oh bam here is the job with 0 back story or info in prior MSQ. That is what I am saying...we are nearing the end of 3.x and there has been no lead up to SAM.

and yes the AST were mentioned and hinted at, my boyfriend was telling me about AST before Yoshida mentioned it...I mean, how would he know..just lucky guess and made up the job and it matched what Yoshida released? >.> He was saying from a loooong time ago that we are getting Astrologian

The MCH guild was in 1.0 since day one. I played 1.0 and have screens of the sign..and he said tons of times he will give us our Muskateer in 1.x days.... I mean see, it was at least hinted at in some manner. >_<


There has been 0 sign of any Samurai in Erozea in the story...

The one comment about Doomtrain from that event was from a single NPC making a comment about misplacing his Doomtrain minion. Not the same thing as the director saying "yeah, these two jobs would be nice for the expansion" and having one of them be confirmed.

For in-game lore, the current Legatus we've been going against this entire expansion uses a katana and fights in a similar style to previous FF Samurai (think Jack, X-2, and XI.)

The MCH guild was not in the game until 3.0. What you're thinking of is the cut MSK guild, which isn't the same thing.

Furthermore, if you're going to say "oh the Ishgardian astrology tower was CLEARLY a prelude to the wildly different Sharlayan-style astrologians we become in 3.0" then I'm sorry to say but you're reaching really, reeeeeeeally hard there. You could point to any part of the map and claim that's foreshadowing for future jobs -- Merchant! Dancer! Shepherd (this one DID have a guild in 1.0 too!) Necromancer! Demonologist!

Yea but what I am asking is where is the story and lore for SAM so far. At least you can find tidbits in the game about dancer, rdm, etc etc all these jobs.

And yes that is what I mean, from the MSK guild we knew some type of gun job was coming because Yoshida promised he would put it in the first expansion, so while it was not MSK...it was still along the lines of what he mentioned since the 1.x days on the forums since the very first few live letters.

I do know he said he wants SAM in here...but I feel like I am just repeating myself endlessly...where is SAM mentioned in the lore? I am not asking how the other jobs are NOT Mentioned, I am asking where is samurai mentioned in the story and/or quests, etc?

I usually keep up well with the lore and I have personally never seen it mentioned...maybe I missed something? That is what I am asking.

and you mean this guy? - http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zenos_yae_Galvus

It does look like it could be a Great Katana...but hmm but the Legatus weapons are nothing to go by, they have always been unique to them. We do not have ANY weapons that they have ever used. So if anything, this would show even less of a chance..or making even less sense of getting the job cuz this guy has the weapon lol.

[Shippuu]

Yea but what I am asking is where is the story and lore for SAM so far. At least you can find tidbits in the game about dancer, rdm, etc etc all these jobs.

Dancer is so vague that it's something mentioned everywhere. There has been zero mention of Dancers as something more than just someone who dances. Red Mage has absolutely not been mentioned ANYWHERE, and the tidbit you are going to try and use for it from 3.4 has actually nothing at all to do with RDM.

Official Lore Book, Au Ra Raen Page 91:
"Before long, the Raen had assumed a prominent role as warriors in the service of countless great warlords. Some ventured across the sea from the Far East, where they earned a reputation as legendary swordmasters."

Hmm...legendary swordmasters from Othard...some of whom were known for traveling to other places...hmmmm...HMMMM.

I do know he said he wants SAM in here...but I feel like I am just repeating myself endlessly...where is SAM mentioned in the lore? I am not asking how the other jobs are NOT Mentioned, I am asking where is samurai mentioned in the story and/or quests, etc?

Where was Sharlayan Astrologians mentioned in the lore? Cause Ishgardian ones have little to nothing to do with the AST we play as. How about machinists? When were machinists specifically mentioned by name? Or Dark Knights? Where was that in the lore before it was added?

Your argument is preposterous and absolutely doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. I suggest you just stop now.

[Iromi]

Official Lore Book, Au Ra Raen Page 91:
"Before long, the Raen had assumed a prominent role as warriors in the service of countless great warlords. Some ventured across the sea from the Far East, where they earned a reputation as legendary swordmasters."

Swordmasters...that could be any sword job though. It could be Samurai, it could be Red Mage...I see how you can relate it to Samurai though, sure. ^^

[Powercow]

This looks Samuraiish lol. I don't remember seeing this at all...does anyone remember where this was shown?

That's from Age of Wulin, a completely different game.

[Powercow]

So again, can you please show me how and where it was mentioned in the lore?

The one comment about Doomtrain from that event was from a single NPC making a comment about misplacing his Doomtrain minion. Not the same thing as the director saying "yeah, these two jobs would be nice for the expansion" and having one of them be confirmed.

For in-game lore, the current Legatus we've been going against this entire expansion uses a katana and fights in a similar style to previous FF Samurai (think Jack, X-2, and XI.)

The MCH guild was not in the game until 3.0. What you're thinking of is the cut MSK guild, which isn't the same thing.

Furthermore, if you're going to say "oh the Ishgardian astrology tower was CLEARLY a prelude to the wildly different Sharlayan-style astrologians we become in 3.0" then I'm sorry to say but you're reaching really, reeeeeeeally hard there. You could point to any part of the map and claim that's foreshadowing for future jobs -- Merchant! Dancer! Shepherd (this one DID have a guild in 1.0 too!) Necromancer! Demonologist!

Edit - Oh, and Red Mages have effectively no in-game lore right now either. But I have faith the dev team will take the NIN approach and add some for them leading up to it, or they'll take the MCH approach and have it come out of nowhere and fit perfectly.

[Naunet]

Edit - Oh, and Red Mages have effectively no in-game lore right now either. But I have faith the dev team will take the NIN approach and add some for them leading up to it, or they'll take the MCH approach and have it come out of nowhere and fit perfectly.

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the little slide said they used a mix of Black and White magic, yes? My husband pointed out that the BLM quests in HW (I haven't done them yet) involve a rivalry between black mages and white mages. He suspects that the red mage story might pick up from that thread. It makes sense to me.

[Felis]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the little slide said they used a mix of Black and White magic, yes? My husband pointed out that the BLM quests in HW (I haven't done them yet) involve a rivalry between black mages and white mages. He suspects that the red mage story might pick up from that thread. It makes sense to me.

That event was the war of magi, which started the 6th umbral era. Nym, Amdapoor and Mhach were at war against each over. At one point the elementals decided that enough is enough and summoned a big flood. After it the magic art became a forbidden art and everyone who used it got hunted down until the 6th astral era began and everyone calmed down.