So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[AsukaHamano]

Samurai(SAM)
(*Probably beating a dead horse on this one now*)

why?
Datamine notes
NPC references after 3.5, similar to NIN
Was 1st choice over DRK

I dont mind blue mage being in the game and it would be interesting to see how they did it, but first things first, Samurai.
Let the weebs be satisfied and released from their anguish
#FreeTheWeeb

[DBelmont]

Saccing HP as a tank would be a bad idea in an MMO.

Unless if they make it work as an OT mechanic were it would help make use of the extra tank HP to push dps further when NOT tanking.

[GMERC]

So basically we agree on the reasons something like a blue mage is not going to be what people want it to be.

If you have a look at my posting history (in particular in this very thread) you'll find that my idea of what a Blue Mage should be in this game already goes against the general consensus opinion. I am totally unphased by the possibility that it might not be a job that has to learn its abilities through being hit by equivalent enemy attacks, because that isn't the part of Blue Mage that matters to me, just as cast-from-HP abilities aren't the part of Dark Knight that matters to me.

[Nominous]

To me, the dark knight is someone who uses their own life force to augment their attacks with dark magic. An aspect that so far has not appeared in game. They tried with magic drain and kinda failed.

On what grounds did they fail?

There's nothing saying that HP has to be the sacrificed resource in order to strengthen their attacks. MP can be (as far is lore is concerned) just as relevant to sacrifice as HP, minus the risk of death. Which, by the way, still exists through dropping Grit, which sacrifices your defenses for higher damage output.

The theme of the Job still exists, it's just a different weapon, different resource, which makes sense because it's a different game.

Samurai (imo) lacks a solid theme throughout the games, so I don't think anyone can nail down a specific play-style they expect. I'm sure most people will be happy with it, considering that fact. Blue Mage can work in the game as a Tank pretty easily, but glorious leader Yoshi P seems to have different ideas for it. I think peeps should just keep an open mind to things instead of expectations that might not be met.

[Reynhart]

I am totally unphased by the possibility that it might not be a job that has to learn its abilities through being hit by equivalent enemy attacks

Blue Mage could still gain abilities through being hit by an enemy attack. Just quest-enemies and not roaming ennemies.
But for that, we need several things :

• The job needs to start at level 1. This way, you wouldn't be able to dive right into party content before having the opportunity to do job quests.

• Each job quest from level 1 to level 60 (or 70) will give 1 new spell, contrary to class quest that only scarcely offer a new skill during the 1-30 time. This would give at least 16 monster skills to learn (No idea how many quests we'll have from 60 to 70). Considering Black Mage only learns 15 spells, that's actually not that bad. The 11 remaining skills would be learned by leveling from 1 to 50 and would mostly be abilities to further enhance the spells, with some weapon skills in the mix.

• For icing on the cake, what could be interesting is that you could chose between several spells when you tackle a quest, so the order in which you learn the spell while leveling could be different depending on your tastes.

[Katana190]

The job need to start at level 1. This way, you wouldn't be able to dive right into party content before having the opportunity to do job quests.

Right. If they ever end up making BLU they can't make it anything above level 30... it would take the experience away entirely.
I don't really agree with the new jobs starting at 50 either, I thought 30 made sense because all jobs start at 30.

[Vexander]

I'm hoping the new Jobs will still have a similar number of quests to other jobs, despite starting at a higher level. Kind of a tutorial of sorts. So the first 6 Quests are back-to-back.

Quest 1: Get the Crystal, your AF Gear, and an AF-matching weapon.
Quest 2: Learn the Job's Offensive Rotation and abilities.
Quest 3: Learn the Job's Defensive Abilities and when best to use them.
Quest 4: Learn the Job's Healing Abilities and when best to use them.
Quest 5: Learn the Job's Utility Abilities and when best to use them.
Quest 6: Learn Chainspell and how to use all Job abilities to properly use Chainspell.

Then the next Quest gives you incentive to go to Dravania on a Quest, and you do your 52, 54, 56, 58, and 60 quests.

[Reynhart]

Considering they didn't do proper 1-30 tutorial for DRK, MCH and AST, and that they struggled to keep a full fledged-story between 30-50 and 50-60, I won't keep my hopes high for that.

[Watachy]

Considering they didn't do proper 1-30 tutorial for DRK, MCH and AST, and that they struggled to keep a full fledged-story between 30-50 and 50-60, I won't keep my hopes high for that.

Everybody near me saying that the new jobs must start at lvl 50. Can anyone confirm that ?

[Reynhart]

Everybody near me saying that the new jobs must start at lvl 50. Can anyone confirm that ?

Well, they announced that their plan is to make new jobs start at 50. As for wether it's a good starting point, well...it's up for debate.