So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Vydos]

My issue with the entire Blue mage discussion probability, is that I can only see it become a dps. And I doubt they want to further increase the dps classes pool, considering RDM is the dps class for the expansion. Blue mage as healer/support seems very odd. I can maybe see it as tank. Unless they start walking away from the holy trinity system. And create a hybrid class.

Dancer as healer/buffer is more likely. Especially if it's a class related to ala mhigo. But again, so can be blue mage. There are so many mixed signals that it's hard for me to 100% say "oh it's going to be this!".

I personally think Yoshi-p is at least doing a good job at making us guess and second guess ourselves. Props to that, it will only make the eventual unveiling all the sweeter.

[Airget]

My issue with the entire Blue mage discussion probability, is that I can only see it become a dps. And I doubt they want to further increase the dps classes pool, considering RDM is the dps class for the expansion. Blue mage as healer/support seems very odd. I can maybe see it as tank. Unless they start walking away from the holy trinity system. And create a hybrid class.

Dancer as healer/buffer is more likely. Especially if it's a class related to ala mhigo. But again, so can be blue mage. There are so many mixed signals that it's hard for me to 100% say "oh it's going to be this!".

I personally think Yoshi-p is at least doing a good job at making us guess and second guess ourselves. Props to that, it will only make the eventual unveiling all the sweeter.

Having either 4 tanks, or 4 healers isn't going to change up those roles as much as another option for dps.

Think about RDM and the introduction of all the other jobs, with RDM we currently have 3 on everything but BRD/MCH

Tanks, WAR/PLD/DRK

Healer, WHM/SCH/AST

Melee DPS, NIN/DRG/MNK

Range DPS, BRD/MCH

Magic DPS RDM/BLM/SMN

What's actually missing is a new range DPS which would actually create an equal ratio with each job type in the game currently. When they commented that RDM would be closer to BLM/SMN I felt like this was a hint as to what the next job was going to be, another range.

With that said, there are two ways they can do this, they either add a gunslinger like job, two gun, bang bang or they introduce Beast Master whom uses Whips for their range attack and make the whip length the same as a range attack lol.

At this point it would be surprising if the other job was tank or healer, if there are two it's possible they could over-saturate those roles making it harder to balance them compared to DPS which is easier because each can have it's own playstyle without stepping on the toes of other job. But the current issue is if you look at 3.4, Astrologist is pretty much leaving the other 2 healers in the dust with their buff and the difference in skill opportunity is pretty skewed at this point in time that if they were to introduce another healer, all it would do is make WHM harder to keep relevant. It would be easier to keep a healer role relevant by keeping it at 3 since the content in question would only leave 1 of that role type out, but when you add another now you leave 2 of the role out on top of potentially making 1 irrelevant because of how well the other two perform.

In a way the 3/3/3 ratio helps to keep each job type balanced since they can play off one another, you wouldn't want to use the same jobs with certain content and can be more flexible with it, 2 tanks, 2 healers, 4 dps. for 24 man raids that's currently 3 tanks, 6 healers and 15 DPS. So DPS honestly have nothing to worry about by just having that type added to the game compared to another tank/healer.

However yes, there is a semi imbalance atm since to an extent range/magic are consider the same compared to DPS, so it is possible the job could be a melee DPS like Blue Mage, since they could be a mage that plays close range. In total the pool of jobs normally pulled in most content tends to be either tank/healer/melee/range, 2 tanks/ 2 healers / 2 melee / 2 range and 1 tank /2 healers / 5 DPS of random assortment usually 2/2 with 1 being added to either range or melee.

We'll find out in a little over a month though but when thinking about what the job could be, a thought to keep in mind is that it will possibly be something that won't ruin the current Duty Finder balance and saying that I am now leaning more towards a melee job unless they go ahead and introduce a range DPS that doesn't have support mechanics like BRD/MCH but rather DPS potential relative to the current melee DPS in which they could then fill the role of a melee DPS rather than be considered range in DF.

[Katana190]

Ratio argument again

If we want to be technical let's not forget the tanks and healers are in a divided state just like the DPS. Healers have Off Healer and Tanks have Off Tank, but we only have 1 of each, WAR and SCH. You may argue "well I don't agree with that" but the problem is this is just how Yoshi-P visualises tanks and healers and it will most likely remain going forward. The best thing to do is give PLD/DRK some badass MT utility to make them worth over taking WAR/New Tank in 4.0

I don't have a source on me but I do recall Yoshi-P atleast stating how he sees WAR as the OT-Multi-skill tank handling the mechanics MT don't and focusing on dealing damage and tanking packs of mobs. And SCH's toolkit speaks for itself, It's not about spamming heals but about preventing the damage before it happens with shields, has emergency burst heals and an insane DPS kit.

The ratio argument is killing me, just like how we're 'missing' a str based DPS to make everything even. Completely forgetting the next expansion will ruin your OCD 'ratio' again.

[Selsix]

Mr. Happy explains it better than I do, or anyone else I've heard on the matter. So if you don't care to read my post, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yet1b5JNmE

My brain says Blue Mage. All the hints are there, Spiderman makes much more sense as a BLU reference than anything else. What's the first thing you think of when you hear "Spiderman"? Is it one of the directors from a movie trilogy? No. Is it dancing? No. It's some dude with the powers of a spider, that's literally the design of the character. Blue Mage simply makes the most sense given the shirt alone.

People gotta stop quoting an interview Yoshi did OVER TWO YEARS AGO as a reason for why it can't be BLU. He initially said RDM wouldn't work either, and here we are.

Also, you gotta remember that they benched Samurai from Ishgard because it didn't make sense thematically. SAM doesn't fit in Ala Mhigo either.

Dancer fans, sorry. Keep holding on to hope. Your time will come.

[Shippuu]

People gotta stop quoting an interview Yoshi did OVER TWO YEARS AGO as a reason for why it can't be BLU.

That would be valid if it weren't for the fact he literally reiterated that very same idea on stage during his Naoki's Room segment with his last guest. Reaffirming his idea of Blue Mage not working in the normal sense and being a solo content type of job, where the point of the job is to simply gather monster abilities for the collection aspect and acting as a sort of "Professor of Monsters."

I also feel since he brought up Blue Mage then, and discussed it, that it is absolutely less likely to be in 4.0 as a result. Considering he avoids and deflects hints towards correct guesses, it was odd he'd bring up blue mage (especially in response to his guest basically asking for samurai tank), and to me says that blue mage won't be in 4.0 at least.

Also, you gotta remember that they benched Samurai from Ishgard because it didn't make sense thematically. SAM doesn't fit in Ala Mhigo either.

That's because with heavensward the jobs were located inside Ishgard, and arguably Astrologian has almost nothing to do with Ishgard either. We know with Stormblood this is absolutely not the case, as all the new jobs will start in ARR locations. Thus none of them have to originate from Ala Mhigo or its surrounding areas (Obviously Red Mage is likely of Sharlayan origins, and begins in Ul'dah).

Every job can be added anywhere as long as appropriate writing is created so that it makes sense in the game's setting and lore. Machinist made zero sense to come from the Knightly and Medieval themed Ishgard yet SE made them fit just fine.

[ZhaneX]

Just want to point out, there's 2/3 Odds that the T-Shirt tease has absolutely nothing to do with abilities.

Dark Knight has nothing to do with Batman.
Red Mage has nothing to do with Scarlet Witch.
Both were merely used for their name. Dark Knight is nothing close to an animal-themed ninja, nor does Red Mage have anything to do with perception-alteration.
Machinist was teased with 007, a marksman, with Yoshi-P specifically pointing to "Gadgets". This foreshadowed Machinists abilities.

[aesteval]

I can maybe see it as tank.

I can definitely see Blue Mage as a magic tank. Big Guard tank stance or long cooldown survival ability? Pearl Wind big heal? Monster abilities could be restricted to being learned from job quests and the job itself could delve into a different way for blue mage to interact with monster abilities in the wider world. Ie: exposure to abilities outside may not learn those abilities but provide some other form of empowerment to the blue mage. People are focused on blue mages being attacked to learn, but it's more along the lines of being exposed to in the case of learning non-offensive abilities.

[Ceasaria]

It's obvious Spider-Man shirt is a hint about Posing Ranger job

[aesteval]

Just want to point out, there's 2/3 Odds that the T-Shirt tease has absolutely nothing to do with abilities.

Or we could look at it this way:

2014 Fanfest we had one name relation: Dark Knight -> Dark Knight
2014 Fanfest we had one theme related clue: 007 -> gadgets and guns -> machinist

2016 Fanfest we had one name relation: Scarlet Witch -> Red Mage
2016 we may or may not have a theme related clue: Spiderman -> ??? -> Blue Mage?