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  1. #1481
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    People said the Sam Raimi theory was far fetched...
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  2. #1482
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    Taryn Holigard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    People said the Sam Raimi theory was far fetched...
    And it still is. Just because it was right, doesn't make it a good hint. The bandwagon went that way. ->
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  3. #1483
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    So how about that Sam Raimi theory being far fetched eh people? Yoshida has answered my prayers. Finally I can play my main from XI!
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  4. #1484
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    Wait a minute... Samurai in Japanese is 侍. If you pay attention to the kanji, you can see it's made up of ⺅(Person), 寸(A measurement length), 土(Earth). Who is a person who measures the Earth? A Calculator! Can't believe all the people fell for the red herring of Samurai. The new job is obviously Calculator.
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  5. #1485
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    And it still is. Just because it was right, doesn't make it a good hint. The bandwagon went that way. ->
    It was no less far fetched than the Blue Mage theories.

    One was a theory based on word play, the other was a theory based on a single thematic element of a character.
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  6. #1486
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    And it still is. Just because it was right, doesn't make it a good hint. The bandwagon went that way. ->
    But, I mean, if it was a bad hint wouldn't people have not immediately figured it out?
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  7. #1487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    It was no less far fetched than the Blue Mage theories.

    One was a theory based on word play, the other was a theory based on a single thematic element of a character.
    Umm... absolutely yes it was far more far-fetched.

    Just because it ended up being the case doesn't change that it was completely far-fetched. All you had to do was look at precedent. All of the previous hints were extremely obvious and straightforward. Dark Knight = Batman (the Dark Knight). Red Mage = Scarlet Witch. Gun user = 007. And I believe there was even a hint with Naruto when NIN was going to be released.

    Sam Raimi was incredibly far-fetched and odd. Spiderman is a HUGE intellectual property spanning many forms of media. Sam Raimi was a minor fraction compared to the whole. Going by past precedent, it should have been more obvious. Thus Spiderman, who got his powers from being attacked, screamed Blue Mage. Hell, even Dancer was much more plausible than Samurai.

    Yes, you can feel good that you were correct. But that doesn't change the fact that it was the least likely option based on past precedent.
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  8. #1488
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Umm... absolutely yes it was far more far-fetched.

    Just because it ended up being the case doesn't change that it was completely far-fetched. All you had to do was look at precedent. All of the previous hints were extremely obvious and straightforward. Dark Knight = Batman (the Dark Knight). Red Mage = Scarlet Witch. Gun user = 007. And I believe there was even a hint with Naruto when NIN was going to be released.

    Sam Raimi was incredibly far-fetched and odd. Spiderman is a HUGE intellectual property spanning many forms of media. Sam Raimi was a minor fraction compared to the whole. Going by past precedent, it should have been more obvious. Thus Spiderman, who got his powers from being attacked, screamed Blue Mage. Hell, even Dancer was much more plausible than Samurai.

    Yes, you can feel good that you were correct. But that doesn't change the fact that it was the least likely option based on past precedent.
    To be fair: Batman was related to Dark Knight because the film in cinema, not because Batman is using a sword or getting his ability from magic...
    Spiderman is similar with the upcoming Samurai theme in the comics in japan!
    Same as with 007 and his gun moving pose he added the hint with the "3 original films" that resulted in Sam Raimi.
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 02-18-2017 at 09:36 PM.

  9. #1489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Sam Raimi was incredibly far-fetched and odd. Spiderman is a HUGE intellectual property spanning many forms of media. Sam Raimi was a minor fraction compared to the whole. Going by past precedent, it should have been more obvious. Thus Spiderman, who got his powers from being attacked, screamed Blue Mage. Hell, even Dancer was much more plausible than Samurai.
    You would be right if not for the fact that it was instead Yoshi Ps comments that formed the basis of the theories. It wasn't that he wore the shirt, it was that he said "I love spiderman, especially the Sam Raimi films", and given that in japan that Sam Raimi's name is said very closely to the way that Samurai is said, it wasn't a difficult leap.
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  10. #1490
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    To be fair: Batman was related to Dark Knight because the film in cinema, not because Batman is using a sword or getting his ability from magic...
    Spiderman is similar with the upcoming Samurai theme in the comics in japan!
    Same as with 007 and his gun moving pose he added the hint with the "3 original films" that resulted in Sam Raimi.
    1) Batman has been known as "The Dark Knight" for far, far, far longer than the movie.
    2) There is no Spiderman Samurai comic. There is a figurine that has Spiderman in Samurai armor. They did one for Batman too.
    3) 007 was a direct, blatant hint of a "Gun user" (what it's called in Japanese). Just like Dark Knight, Scarlet Witch and Naruto.
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