So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Shippuu]

It would be incredibly silly to not think about the market in every marketable activity you do in an mmorpg, and as you remove stats the stats left become more important to be divided intelligently. To make repeated simple mistakes like that would be troublesome, of course by themselves it wouldn't be a massive issue but would likely reveal small differences in price growing as demand (we already have that, purposely exaggerating differences would be worse - being mindful of what you have, or paying attention to rates is all you need though). It is definitely not nonissue but solutions available are quite simple (like adjusting rates of materia drops).

I'm sorry but market activity on materia stats are just not anywhere near a big enough thing to prevent or alter their decision on jobs. Especially since you proposed it as a problem for main stat materia, of which not a single job actually uses aside from tanks using STR materia on their accessories. So a new job's main stat doesn't effect this market in any way because all their gear is already capped on their primary stats. After that it's secondary stats such as Accuracy, Determination, Skill/Spell Speed, and Crit, of which every job can and does use to varying degrees and adding new jobs isn't going to drastically shake up the market for these materias. Gear sets have a bigger impact on these things than actual jobs, as the materia desired is dependant on what stat you need more of depending on each sets, but I don't see you arguing for all the next armor sets to have exactly the same stat distribution so as not to disrupt the precious materia market.

I have no doubts they'll add more FATEs and want people to partake in the new areas, but I do not like FATEs. They're a boring content, imo (due to the two common extremes, zerg or entirely vacant - in which both scenario FATEs have issue balancing well to). Would much rather have the best spam EXP source be PotD or dungeons (roulette makes them great for the first go at least).

That's your opinion, just as mine is that PotD is boring content with close to zero strategy and mindlessly repetitive. It's a step up from simply grinding random monsters. Your opinion is not shared by everyone, just as mine isn't.

[Shougun]

I'm sorry but market activity on materia stats are just not anywhere near a big enough thing to prevent or alter their decision on jobs. Especially since you proposed it as a problem for main stat materia, of which not a single job actually uses aside from tanks using STR materia on their accessories. So a new job's main stat doesn't effect this market in any way because all their gear is already capped on their primary stats. After that it's secondary stats such as Accuracy, Determination, Skill/Spell Speed, and Crit, of which every job can and does use to varying degrees and adding new jobs isn't going to drastically shake up the market for these materias. Gear sets have a bigger impact on these things than actual jobs, as the materia desired is dependant on what stat you need more of depending on each sets, but I don't see you arguing for all the next armor sets to have exactly the same stat distribution so as not to disrupt the precious materia market.

You didn't really read what I had to say if this is your response. I said they should think about it but the options to solve are relatively simple, I already said in the very beginning it wouldn't alter simple choices due to the very simple solutions. However if aggravated then yeah it probably would, like if we had like 12 jobs on strength/intelligence and 1 on dexterity/mind then yeah it would actually have obvious effect on market and should therefore be on their decision what to do next. Also they do attempt to get people to use the main stat materias at varying times, such as certain quests, or accessories as you pointed out (main reason why Strength is ~500% more expensive than other main stats) - the demand at those points would exemplify their balance. I never said they couldn't make it unbalanced (only that drop rates being adjusted slightly would be useful), and if you're suggesting higher demand with same supply has no effect on a market... then yeah (Main stat materia definitely sell, consistently, so they have value - and strength is currently out of the norm).

All they need is to be mindful of the rates and what jobs need (obviously somethings never change like det/crit). That doesn't mean "oh no its not balanced, lets make a dex job now!" it just means you don't run around blind saying "nothing matters" as that's how you make mistakes. It also matters their group (gear group), but w.e I'm trying to explain what I've already said "simple issue, simple solution". And clearly you're set on thinking im banishing multiple stat desires in a row or something, which I've never attempted to say.

And the market should always be treated as precious, market is not some flippant thing you do whatever you want with when designing. All things are important. Always, that's why they hire dedicated economists in many MMOs.

That's your opinion, just as mine is that PotD is boring content with close to zero strategy and mindlessly repetitive. It's a step up from simply grinding random monsters. Your opinion is not shared by everyone, just as mine isn't.

I said in that thing you quoted imo, so clearly i m o...

[Pompompar]

who knows? I mean its possible theyd retract from never wanting to do that again, but its not like weirder stuff came out in the past like "rdm not gonna happen in this game because reasons"

Indeed, they were once said that red make is hard to fit in tank, healer, dps role. As RDM are support job in FF series.
Major in spells such as slow, paralyze, blind, phalanx and etc.
They made it happened now.

Besides, if battle system is changing, it might mean that Blue Mage could be able to become 1st multi-role job. (YouTube shows many of FF11 Blue Mage as Tank, DPS, or even Healer)

[ADVSS]

Indeed, they were once said that red make is hard to fit in tank, healer, dps role. As RDM are support job in FF series.
Major in spells such as slow, paralyze, blind, phalanx and etc.
They made it happened now.

Besides, if battle system is changing, it might mean that Blue Mage could be able to become 1st multi-role job. (YouTube shows many of FF11 Blue Mage as Tank, DPS, or even Healer)

Im right there with you! Obviously the role system will limit a job, but its not impossible to get it to fit. And I'll always believe that

[Kaedan]

Did you forget about the already announced Red Mage DPS?

I actually think there's a chance of 4 jobs. But if it's only three, then I would say SAM won't be in and it will be BLU tank, DNC healer and RDM dps.

[TarynH]

I actually think there's a chance of 4 jobs. But if it's only three, then I would say SAM won't be in and it will be BLU tank, DNC healer and RDM dps.

I'm thinking 4 jobs as well. If only to be optimistic. I'm not going to guess roles, as I think SAM and BLU can fit DPS or Tank. But I think we might see RDM, BLU, SAM and DNC.

[Daegar]

RDM-Ranged Caster
SAM-Tank
BLU-Melee Caster

That will be it, I got a feelin' in me bones. It will be so

[Ry0uSh1n]

RDM-Ranged Caster
SAM-Tank
BLU-Melee Caster

That will be it, I got a feelin' in me bones. It will be so

As much as im sure alot of people want sam, im leaning 50/50 Sam/Blu as tank. I prefer Blu myself. If they do indeed stick to the "Only 2 new jobs for stormblood." If they surprise us with 3, then im going:

RDM - Ranged DPS
DNC - Support Healer
BLU - Tank

[Critical-Limit]

When was dancer ever hinted? Just curious

[TarynH]

When was dancer ever hinted? Just curious

Some people believe the girl in the teaser trailer is actually a dancer, and not a monk.