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    Player
    Deus_ex_Machina's Avatar
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    Levi Invidia
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Would you be open to experiment? if so, may i suggest do 1 or 2 Rage of Halone combo and then straight up drop shield oath, not even putting on sword oath. and then use fight or flight to buff up your Goring blade+circle of scorn. Use a rampart to get yourself that +20% mitigation from Shield Oath if it pleases your healers

    it sounds crazy right? but you don't benefit from sword oath until 9-12 GCDs later, since it only give you additional Autos. So establish your aggro and then drop shield's -20% penalty, (btw, dropping shield does not eat at your gcd) get about 2 full rotations (pot+gore + circle of scorn, and royal authority) in and pop back to shield oath.

    Also you mentioned getting 2 Circle of scorn in your Fight or Flight. That's great, but if you use FoF just before Goring Blade, you can safely get 2 Goring + 2 SoC within 1 FoF
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    Mirateski's Avatar
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    Ar'telan Qin
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Deus_ex_Machina View Post
    Would you be open to experiment?
    Always, but I think my healers would spontaneously combust if I tried it, lmao.

    I'm now solidly topping 950+ dps in full shield oath, but when I try to switch to sword oath, I keep dying. I'm not 100% sure why? I start out with rampart, then use bulwark after the scrap bomb, use sheltron for every scrapline except fmf (where I use hallowed), then I use foresight for the second add set into sentinel then back into rampart, and basically rotate as they come up. Awareness I pop right at the start, conva I pop as it seems necessary. Sometimes I get crit like five times in a row which just seems silly?

    I mentioned this to my group and they told me that clearing was more important than dpsing, which is of course true, but I feel quite stagnant. We're seeing a lot of phases and I want to help as much as I can.

    As for telling dps to do anything, they already get a bit annoyed that I keep getting on at the blm about quelling, I can't see asking them to do SSS going down well. I was recruited to the static by someone the original 6 recruited so I'm a step removed from the rest of them, who are all friends, and it seems a bit rude to come in and be all demanding about stuff, haha.

    Edit to add: I'm pretty sure we're all above 255. I'd hope so, considering! I'm at 260 bang on, and my MCH is at 255 with only like half the shire set, so...

    Second edit: I'm opening with one halone combo to ensure hate from blm and mnk (I lose it otherwise), then go FB > spirits > RB > FoF > goring > CoS > FB > rampart > SB > bloodbath and into the 2xRA, 1xGB rotation, popping offglobals as they come up and keeping an eye on my cooldowns as much as poss. I wanted to try and drop DV on the party for acid rain but I'm not sure if that helps or hinders really. Especially when I swing around to fmf after scrapline they all get nervous, so I've just taken to hanging out over W and stoneskinning myself for shits and giggles.
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    Last edited by Mirateski; 01-12-2017 at 04:21 AM.

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    hakurou46's Avatar
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    Lia Numa
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirateski View Post
    Second edit: I'm opening with one halone combo to ensure hate from blm and mnk (I lose it otherwise), then go FB > spirits > RB > FoF > goring > CoS > FB > rampart > SB > bloodbath and into the 2xRA, 1xGB rotation, popping offglobals as they come up and keeping an eye on my cooldowns as much as poss.
    Your opener should be Halone for aggro if you need it, then:
    Fast Blade -> FoF -> (CoS, Spirits and Riot Blade in any order) -> Goring Blade -> 2xRA -> Circle of Scorn -> Goring Blade -> FoF ends and you go back to doing your normal rotations. For maximum dps you want to get a Shield Swipe in under this as well, and that gives you a little bit of threat anyway so it's good. I sometimes Sheltron just to get it in my opener rotation.

    Moving in to Divine Veil the party during Acid is only worth it if you're offtanking, which since you need to maintain aggro you're obviously not.
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