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    Blonde_Huntress's Avatar
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    Blonde Renwynd
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 68
    I was sympathetic to the "heal only healer" until I really starting doing dungeons as a DPS. I would always DPS when I was a healer, so it was just natural to me because I like being involved. Which brings me to a point:

    I was playing Sunken Temple earlier today (as DPS). First time we got wiped because our healer(AST) who was obviously new, did not know the mechanics to the first boss (Doom tiles). So healer goes down, followed by other DPS, then myself, and tank. That's fine--but I noticed the healer would literally just idle during mobs if no one needed healing. Irked me. Our tank apparently wasn't having it, because she disconnected after the wipe and we had to abort.

    Second go round, we get another healer (WHM this time), who does THE EXACT SAME THING. No DPS, died on first boss. Thankfully we had good Tank/DPS synergy and I revived her afterwards.

    Stop lowering the bar, healers. ;P
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    Dreth Coamenal
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Ah still new to the game myself. But using all of your resources should be a goal man. If you constantly have 80% of your MP and nothing to do between heals then you have 80% of your mana wasted. Its there to be used, if im not a competent enough healer to heal and throw some DPS in raids and i get kicked its my own fault for not learning my class. I want tanks to use CDs for agro, and DPS to use CDs for damage, and me for heals. But when im getting hit and the tank is currently busy id like the DPS to tank the mod off me, and in turn i do DPS inbetween heals. It might not be out qued in roll but the faster they die the less healing needs to be done.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ddreth_coamenal View Post
    Ah still new to the game myself. But using all of your resources should be a goal man. If you constantly have 80% of your MP and nothing to do between heals then you have 80% of your mana wasted. Its there to be used, if im not a competent enough healer to heal and throw some DPS in raids and i get kicked its my own fault for not learning my class. I want tanks to use CDs for agro, and DPS to use CDs for damage, and me for heals. But when im getting hit and the tank is currently busy id like the DPS to tank the mod off me, and in turn i do DPS inbetween heals. It might not be out qued in roll but the faster they die the less healing needs to be done.
    You're already playing better than at least half the healer population at max level, keep it up.
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I haven't read all the posts, just some from the start of the thread and some at the end of it. All I have to say is wow, the original post was about healers not helping with dps during a Potd run when there was one dps and 3 healers and the thread got turned into another debate about why healers should or shouldn't help dps.

    With the Potd due to how you can get thrown in with what ever for a party keeping the standard thinking you'll likely fail runs. When you get put into a party in Potd with 2+ healers the healers need to help with dps, what do you do when you end up in a Potd party where all 4 members are healers? You going to heal the mobs to death?

    Potd should have the same format as the dungeons in my opinion cause on the higher floors I've noticed when you end up in a party without a healer it's difficult to even clear that run
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    when you end up in a party without a healer it's difficult to even clear that run
    Having run PotD multiple times on all jobs at various levels of enhancements and compositions, many of which were completely healer/tank less, I disagree vehemently. Not having a healer doesn't make the higher floors any more or less difficult than the lower.
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    Dreth Coamenal
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Having run PotD multiple times on all jobs at various levels of enhancements and compositions, many of which were completely healer/tank less, I disagree vehemently. Not having a healer doesn't make the higher floors any more or less difficult than the lower.
    If DPS stick to the same mob those long effect CC's (Like sleep, on CONJ, or i know one on THM) work WONDERS when people dont hit the mob after you use it.

    I usually remind the DPS in my groups since im still a low level and with new players like myself, but one mention of it and they usually take note to who is hitting me when i CC it.
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