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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
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    Well, what matters to me most is simply getting through the instance. This is also why I mostly go in as PLD, since I can spot heal effectively when necessary, raise when needed, and mitigate and deal damage efficiently without hampering my parties ability to clear said content as quickly as can be managed. Anything over +40, while nice to have, won't speed up the run at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Anything over +40, while nice to have, won't speed up the run at all.

    Are we on the same page here? You just confused me.


    Anything over +40 Arms in the floors 80-100's is totally gonna make the run faster. Especially when you have party members who can split up and cover rooms.


    Unless you can convince me a party of 4 +40 arms will clear the run in the same duration as a +99. I don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    Are we on the same page here? You just confused me.


    Anything over +40 Arms in the floors 80-100's is totally gonna make the run faster. Especially when you have party members who can split up and cover rooms.


    Unless you can convince me a party of 4 +40 arms will clear the run in the same duration as a +99. I don't buy it.
    A group of 2 sch, a pld, and a blm, all around +43 arms/armor: 90-100 took about 24 minutes.

    Another group of 2 drg a pld and a blm all around mid 90s, though the pld had a +87 weapon: About 24 minutes for completion, 90-100.

    Both runs used 5 strength and 3 Rages.

    Of course, this is just what I've seen on my own runs as pld, but I don't see any time difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    A group of 2 sch, a pld, and a blm, all around +43 arms/armor: 90-100 took about 24 minutes.

    Another group of 2 drg a pld and a blm all around mid 90s, though the pld had a +87 weapon: About 24 minutes for completion, 90-100.

    Both runs used 5 strength and 3 Rages.

    Of course, this is just what I've seen on my own runs as pld, but I don't see any time difference.
    The math doesn't add up. We have the ability to have +80 arms for a reason. For those two to have the same time in your experience. The latter had to be inexperienced or not seasoned yet to complete the duty.

    I still don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    We have the ability to have +80 arms for a reason.
    Well, you're not wrong. The reason is so that it's easier to acquire multiple Kinnas if you so desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    A group of 2 sch, a pld, and a blm, all around +43 arms/armor: 90-100 took about .
    Lol wtf this has got to be the shittiest evidence i've seen, one reason why this game needs a friggin dps meter.

    1. POTD runs are not directly comparable, the random generation of mobs, traps and even required mobs to progress means you cant simply say it makes no difference. How would you know if the sch pt gpt a string of good floors whereas the 87+ group got crap spawns?

    2. Unless the players were equally skilled you also can't compare. The gap between trash tier and decent is huge. This alone can mean minutes on the clear time
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