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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    It's a very common theme on these forums. If you don't play MY way, you're gonna get the boot! Stop wasting MY time. I have other more important things to do. You're dragging down MY game experience.

    Seems there is quite a lot of selfishness in this mMULTIPLAYERorpg.
    Yes I agree and feel that if tis trend of expecting healers to dps or gtfo continues with liittle understanding of how difficult it sometimes is for people, then theres not going to be much joy for many in the future. I just hope its not considered too selfish of me to want to be able to keep people alive, safely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Yes I agree and feel that if tis trend of expecting healers to dps or gtfo continues with liittle understanding of how difficult it sometimes is for people, then theres not going to be much joy for many in the future. I just hope its not considered too selfish of me to want to be able to keep people alive, safely
    He's actually saying that you are the selfish one. You keep saying that it's difficult, but are you actually trying? Do people actually try to improve themselves so they can easily dps while healing efficiently, or do they just come to the forums to cry, complain, and throw out as many reasons as possible as to why they shouldn't have to improve and everyone else should just pick up their slack? Right now, it's looking like you're choosing the forum option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    He's actually saying that you are the selfish one. You keep saying that it's difficult, but are you actually trying? Do people actually try to improve themselves so they can easily dps while healing efficiently, or do they just come to the forums to cry, complain, and throw out as many reasons as possible as to why they shouldn't have to improve and everyone else should just pick up their slack? Right now, it's looking like you're choosing the forum option.
    Healing is largely circumstancial, the ability to dps while heaing is even more so. Whether its easy or not depends on many factors. Someone like you expecting everyone to find it easy inevery instance may believe that a healer isnt pulling their weight if they dont or cant do it . Sorry I had tospell it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    I just hope its not considered too selfish of me to want to be able to keep people alive, safely
    You still haven't explained how the goal of keeping parties alive runs cross-purpose to contributing DPS effectively and appropriately.

    Or is that you genuinely don't understand how this works? I suppose it would help explain your attitude if you thought we were all nuts for stating that you could seamlessly work DPS into your healing routine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    You still haven't explained how the goal of keeping parties alive runs cross-purpose to contributing DPS effectively and appropriately.

    Or is that you genuinely don't understand how this works? I suppose it would help explain your attitude if you thought we were all nuts for stating that you could seamlessly work DPS into your healing routine.
    I undrstand comletely how it works. Im not sure others understand that its not so 'easy' to do. Resulting in healers being bullied into doing or trying to for fear of being booted out. Even when its clear to a healer that the instance needs heals not dps. As in thunda cat's case above. In this post people were asking if its mandatory in potd. I wasnt there I just saw posts about healers being idle if they dont dps. It isnt alwys the case but gives an excuse to complain I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Yes I agree and feel that if tis trend of expecting healers to dps or gtfo continues with liittle understanding of how difficult it sometimes is for people, then theres not going to be much joy for many in the future. I just hope its not considered too selfish of me to want to be able to keep people alive, safely
    If the role is too difficult, then either practice in easier content or play something else. You are basically advocating people willfully accept someone else gimping a portion of their abilities because "it's too hard for them." In leveling dungeons or mentor roulette? Sure. I won't get on your case about lack of DPS contribution because those roulettes are intentionally designed for inexperienced players to learn. When you've reached Xelphatol or Alexander, you no longer have any excuse. Furthermore, I'll straight up comm any healer who at least tries to stance dance even if they panic out of it. At least they are putting forth an effort-- one I hope to encourage with commendations. It's the healers who flatout don't want to DPS that most people complain about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I won't get on your case about lack of DPS contribution because those roulettes are intentionally designed for inexperienced players to learn. When you've reached Xelphatol or Alexander, you no longer have any excuse. Furthermore, I'll straight up comm any healer who at least tries to stance dance even if they panic out of it. At least they are putting forth an effort-- one I hope to encourage with commendations. It's the healers who flatout don't want to DPS that most people complain about.
    Im replying because you quoted me. You do not seem to understand that healers still need to learn afight like alexander before youknow when its safe to dps, so your comments are based on presumption. It is just thse same presmptions of what healers can and cant do which is what I am talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Im replying because you quoted me. You do not seem to understand that healers still need to learn afight like alexander before youknow when its safe to dps, so your comments are based on presumption. It is just thse same presmptions of what healers can and cant do which is what I am talking about
    No one is saying you have to DPS day one of progression. In fact, I wouldn't even turn off Grit much (if at all) until I learned the mechanics and what I can cheese through. We're talking about once you've experienced everything and know what mechanics are coming. If you've cleared A9S, you should know when to anticipate damage and when it's safe to DPS. Or you can take up solo healing the entire fight. There are healers who refuse to DPS ever. They simply won't turn on Cleric Stance even when they're well aware there won't be any incoming damage.
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