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  1. #111
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    Feyona's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    He's actually saying that you are the selfish one. You keep saying that it's difficult, but are you actually trying? Do people actually try to improve themselves so they can easily dps while healing efficiently, or do they just come to the forums to cry, complain, and throw out as many reasons as possible as to why they shouldn't have to improve and everyone else should just pick up their slack? Right now, it's looking like you're choosing the forum option.
    Healing is largely circumstancial, the ability to dps while heaing is even more so. Whether its easy or not depends on many factors. Someone like you expecting everyone to find it easy inevery instance may believe that a healer isnt pulling their weight if they dont or cant do it . Sorry I had tospell it out
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    You still haven't explained how the goal of keeping parties alive runs cross-purpose to contributing DPS effectively and appropriately.

    Or is that you genuinely don't understand how this works? I suppose it would help explain your attitude if you thought we were all nuts for stating that you could seamlessly work DPS into your healing routine.
    I undrstand comletely how it works. Im not sure others understand that its not so 'easy' to do. Resulting in healers being bullied into doing or trying to for fear of being booted out. Even when its clear to a healer that the instance needs heals not dps. As in thunda cat's case above. In this post people were asking if its mandatory in potd. I wasnt there I just saw posts about healers being idle if they dont dps. It isnt alwys the case but gives an excuse to complain I guess
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    It's also doesn't entitle you to force people to deal with the way you play. Just stop with the "I pay a sub" excuse because it's a very weak one and doesn't prove a point at all.
    I pay for my subs to enjoy the game not to be controlled by other people. You guys should chill about how others play
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    I pay for my subs to enjoy the game not to be controlled by other people. You guys should chill about how others play
    I pay for my subs to enjoy the game not to carry people who want to put in as little effort as possible. You should chill about how others play.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    The whole "it's my sub, I play how I want" argument makes no sense because, guess what, everyone else also pays a sub. And guess what else, it's also the same amount of money that you pay.
    This isnt entirely true......I pay for my wife's sub. Which means I pay more for the game than you do, so you have to conform your playstyle to how I want you to play, or gtfo, .

    On a serious note, please don't skew my words, Hood Rat. I was just pointing out the general attitude in the game regarding playstyles. Yes the argument can go both ways. However, it's mostly seen as if your not playing your class as a savage raider, you're garbage and going to be vote kicked.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I pay for my subs to enjoy the game not to carry people who want to put in as little effort as possible. You should chill about how others play.
    Seriously, Im very chilled about the game, I just dont like seeing people upset by peple like you who have no tolerance for others.
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  7. #117
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    Malora Lyra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    Communicate. Use the chat bar, it's there for stuff like this.
    You are right communicate. yet as I've said in this post multiple times if you have 3 healers all just healing you don't get anywhere. And sometimes when you say something to them they don't listen or they jump down your throat, because "they are healers they heal" which isn't always how it works in PotD. Everyone needs to communicate and understand what others are trying to say. This forum is a prime example of people not taking the time to understand what others are saying. Everyone wants to make the other party the bad guy.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    In this post people were asking if its mandatory in potd. I wasnt there I just saw posts about healers being idle if they dont dps. It isnt alwys the case but gives an excuse to complain I guess
    The posts weren't about healers being idle in regular dungeons tho it was suppose to be about PotD. Which is different. You jumped in and made it about everything else. as I have said before your argument belongs more in the should healers dps or not type of forums. You also act like you are the only healer but earlier I said I was a healer too. the argument in this forum came from the fights of "I pay my sub I play how I want" and also of people assuming people were talking about regular dungeons which until you jumped in we weren't. Sorry but it's people like you that look for fights... Can you find anything else to complain about your argument is getting old... Go ahead call me a bully call the rest of us a bully it seems to be your only defense.
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  9. #119
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Yes I agree and feel that if tis trend of expecting healers to dps or gtfo continues with liittle understanding of how difficult it sometimes is for people, then theres not going to be much joy for many in the future. I just hope its not considered too selfish of me to want to be able to keep people alive, safely
    If the role is too difficult, then either practice in easier content or play something else. You are basically advocating people willfully accept someone else gimping a portion of their abilities because "it's too hard for them." In leveling dungeons or mentor roulette? Sure. I won't get on your case about lack of DPS contribution because those roulettes are intentionally designed for inexperienced players to learn. When you've reached Xelphatol or Alexander, you no longer have any excuse. Furthermore, I'll straight up comm any healer who at least tries to stance dance even if they panic out of it. At least they are putting forth an effort-- one I hope to encourage with commendations. It's the healers who flatout don't want to DPS that most people complain about.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    This isnt entirely true......I pay for my wife's sub. Which means I pay more for the game than you do, so you have to conform your playstyle to how I want you to play, or gtfo, .

    On a serious note, please don't skew my words, Hood Rat. I was just pointing out the general attitude in the game regarding playstyles. Yes the argument can go both ways. However, it's mostly seen as if your not playing your class as a savage raider, you're garbage and going to be vote kicked.
    How can you be complaining that most people here are selfish by saying

    'It's a very common theme on these forums. If you don't play MY way, you're gonna get the boot! Stop wasting MY time. I have other more important things to do. You're dragging down MY game experience. '

    When the majority of the player Base disagrees with YOUR inefficient and straight up bad choice of playstyle. Why don't you change? If anything, you're the one displaying the 'my way or the highway'
    attitude as you're in the minority that believes healers should just stand there doing nothing.
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