When did this become a trend?

[Hayward]

Lately I've been noticing a disturbing trend in A11. Healers seem to be outright ignoring Preyed players during the final phase and letting them get vaporized. I'd like to know if there's some talking point going around that's telling healers that this is OK, because I'll tell you right now as a Summoner it is NOT.

If I get marked for Prey without someone healing through it, that makes it all the more difficult to recover and get back into form (Recalling Ifrit, getting enough MP to do rotations again, etc.). That and hoping nothing else takes me out in the meantime.

There are 2 healers allowed in Alexander fights for a reason: One to keep tabs on the main tank/off tank, the other for everyone else and some damage if everything is OK. Prey on a DPS is dangerous, so take your eyes off the parser for a while and help a team member out of that jam, please.

[Culfinrandir]

It's what happens when everyone insists that DPS is the pinnacle of game play & healing comes second. If healers were encouraged to mainly heal, rather than DPS, I guess they'd spend more time looking at the friend's health rather than the foe's.

[Taika]

I've noticed this trend too. Last time I notified the healers about it (nicely!) one (who was only healing) replied with "YOU try healing this!!!" I was progressing as SCH in A11S then (and have beaten it since). :P At the time when Prey comes there really isn't anything else going on, and it always comes at same time, so there really isn't an excuse not to at least try to heal the target. And often when I've been the target the healers really aren't even trying, since I don't receive a single heal.

It's what happens when everyone insists that DPS is the pinnacle of game play & healing comes second. If healers were encouraged to mainly heal, rather than DPS, I guess they'd spend more time looking at the friend's health rather than the foe's.

As already said by others, I see way more ignoring prey from "I'm here to only heal" healers than from the healers who are actively using their whole tool kit.

[Dzian]

I've noticed this trend too. Last time I notified the healers about it (nicely!) one (who was only healing) replied with "YOU try healing this!!!" I was progressing as SCH in A11S then (and have beaten it since). :P At the time when Prey comes there really isn't anything else going on, and it always comes at same time, so there really isn't an excuse not to at least try to heal the target. And often when I've been the target the healers really aren't even trying, since I don't receive a single heal.


As already said by others, I see way more ignoring prey from "I'm here to only heal" healers than from the healers who are actively using their whole tool kit.

to be fair. I've seen this happening a lot. but also I don't place all the blame on the healers. I see quite often ranged dps are all over the place when the photons drop everyones hp down to 1 and all those party members are in polar opposite corners of the arena it's pretty tough on the healers to get all there hps back up because there so spread out its impossible to hit them with indomibility or succor heals so forced forced to single heal everyone and try if i have time to shield the prey target. happens a lot with ranged dps where if they were spread out anymore they'd be separate arenas fighting the same boss.

a12 is the same when players get marked I cant adlo them because no one is standing on the stack marker over my head which means screw keeping you alive I'm gonna shield myself because noones stacking on me and I'm going to take that full hit.

I was in a11 on my ninja earlier and had a smner and machinist complain cos they both died due to lack of heals after that photon thingy when they were a both thousand miles away from the healers... I got hit by medica 2 succor and indomnibility within seconds of the mechanics going off so if they were in range they'd have been hit by all 3 of them and be at full hp. totally not the healers fault they died...

[Taika]

to be fair. I've seen this happening a lot. but also I don't place all the blame on the healers.

I definitely agree that it's not the healers' fault if the DDs aren't positioned in a sensible way (it's the DDs responsibility to try to stay in range of AoE heals). But I think this is a separate discussion from the Prey mechanic, since there isn't any AoE hits going on during or right before the Prey in this fight. And the Prey target can't do anything to help the healers deal with the mechanic (other than stay apart from others and somewhere where they're easy to see).

[Shurrikhan]

I AB HoT when I see the prey mark, and have ED ready for the one I'm not B2ing. Then again, I usually just Monk that fight.

As already said by others, I see way more ignoring prey from "I'm here to only heal" healers than from the healers who are actively using their whole tool kit.

Also this.

Wiped twice in my weekly A12S on account of healers who frequently left me, the MT, at sub-20% HP (for as long as I could hold out on Grit DA-SE and then LD alone, so some 10-18 seconds at a time), letting marked targets die, and failing to stack. When I asked why they weren't using their toolkits (refering to AoEs and HoTs), they responded with "we only heal".
I healed it for the first time, actually using HoTs and spending the majority of the time dpsing (my SCH cohealer only DPSing apart from EoS WD), and no one dropped below 40% even once. /shrug

[ckc22]

You get the heals you deserve. I know how much you need to keep you alive assuming you can dodge mechanics. If you can't survive avoidable damage long enough for the regen to top you up then you die. Not my problem.

Honestly sometimes A11 is easier if a lot of players who can't dodge are dead when propeller wind comes out anyway.

This is how healing works here. Get into it, get over it, or get out. Most people who want to only heal can't handle the "complexity" of stance dancing despite it being easy.

[Taika]

You get the heals you deserve. I know how much you need to keep you alive assuming you can dodge mechanics. If you can't survive avoidable damage long enough for the regen to top you up then you die. Not my problem.

This thread is about an individual mechanic that cannot be evaded or survived without heals...

[randysquirrel]

This thread is about an individual mechanic that cannot be evaded or survived without heals...

He said avoidable damage, to be fair, obv was not referring to this mech in particular

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

It's what happens when everyone insists that DPS is the pinnacle of game play & healing comes second. If healers were encouraged to mainly heal, rather than DPS, I guess they'd spend more time looking at the friend's health rather than the foe's.

This x1000. Currently proDPS healers tend to demonize those healers that would rather focus on making sure the party survives through all mechanics rather than spend 90% of their time in clerics.