DF Tanks and Whm

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

ya but we're not talking about max dps, we're talking about acceptable dps.

From my point of view as a PLD, you are asking for max DPS. Which tank are you getting "easily over 1k dps in a9-12" cuz I bet it isnt pld

[SundayTrash]

From my point of view as a PLD, you are asking for max DPS. Which tank are you getting "easily over 1k dps in a9-12" cuz I bet it isnt pld

any tank can do it

[Yeol]

You will hardly find people that bring out jobs full potential in DF, even at level 60.

I've already explained why in an older thread.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

any tank can do it

Considering most dps (tanks included) pad their numbers with AOE damage, and pld only has circle of scorn for an aoe, you aren't likely to see a PLD that can match the numbers of a DRK or WAR outside of a training dummy.

[PArcher]

its not that hard lol, I don't main a tank but can easily pull off 1K+ dps with with ilvl250 as a MT in alex A9-A12

No, its not if you have healers who can keep you up and keep the party up. If your healers, DPS or other tank are derps, standing in stuff, not killing adds, etc, and you don't get heals tanking, you're going to die. Tank stance can save you there (especially on WAR with those OP self heals in Defiance).

Also

WHM that likes to spam medic II and pull aggro.

If you're a good tank, no-one in DF will pull aggro from you. Even when full-on DPSing. If you lose aggro, its all on you.

Heck, even in Savage the main tank is expected to keep aggro and DPS.

[PArcher]

Considering most dps (tanks included) pad their numbers with AOE damage, and pld only has circle of scorn for an aoe, you aren't likely to see a PLD that can match the numbers of a DRK or WAR outside of a training dummy.

Well, mt group's PLD can do over 1800 DPS in A9S, main tanking (so not even padding with Scorn). 260 weapon too. WHM goes AST for 9S, but he's basically just AoEing his cards ( ). Oh, and no MCH (extra sadface)

Sure, I'm pulling well over that as WAR, and DRK can do more as well, but to say PLD can't do well over 1K DPS is silly

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Well, mt group's PLD can do over 1800 DPS in A9S, main tanking (so not even padding with Scorn). 260 weapon too.

Not sure how, I cant even get that over 3 minutes on a dummy.

[Yeol]

If you're a good tank, no-one in DF will pull aggro from you. Even when full-on DPSing. If you lose aggro, its all on you.

Heck, even in Savage the main tank is expected to keep aggro and DPS.

This actually goes back to the party.
DPs and healers have abilities to reduce their aggro generation. It helps tanks a lot, but sadly you won't find people using them regularly in DF because they don't think they are necessary.

[SundayTrash]

If you're a good tank, no-one in DF will pull aggro from you. Even when full-on DPSing. If you lose aggro, its all on you.

Heck, even in Savage the main tank is expected to keep aggro and DPS.

not if u have whm that can't control their aggro by spamming medicia II and not using shroud.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

go ahead and kick/heckle me because I was in tank stance so my DPS isn't "acceptable". I have no issue filing that report.

And you'll be told "playstyle differences"