The Legend of Wyvern

[ReapKarmah]

We've heard it all before and I'm aware of that; but give me a chance.

As you all know, Dragoon is coming and one hot topic is whether or not Wyverns should be included. There are many valid reasons to having a pet dragon by your side. Equally so, there are also many valid reasons to not having them at all. I acknowledge that.

My proposal is simply thus: Let the player have the option to decide individually whether or not they want a Wyvern pet by their side.

The breakdown:
Pet Wyvern: Reduced Dragoon Stats to make up for there now being an additional entity to your team.
No Pet Wyvern: Normal Dragoon Stats. Maybe throw in some nice Weapon Skills or other benefits only available to Dragoons who currently have their Wyvern dismissed.

For those of you that don't want anything to do with a pet Wyvern for any reason, you would have the option to do so, resulting in a respectively stronger Dragoon than say another player who has their Wyvern by their side and the addition of some flashy and useful Weapon Skills or abilities that are only usable when your Wyvern in dismissed.

For those of you that would love to have a pet Wyvern by your side, you would have your character's strengths and weaknesses adjusted appropriately and fairly while having your pet Wyvern out fighting along side of you and possibly being able to use various breath attacks to aid you in your battles!

Both options can be very useful depending on your circumstance and this way you're bound to have some fun!

Furthermore, I think it best to have a menu-based toggle to summon or dismiss your pet Wyvern at any time as opposed to making a permanent decision at the beginning of your adventures as a Dragoon and later regretting it. I'm sure there are some indecisive people out there who would appreciate this, I being one of them. Or maybe you just prefer one way over the other for specific instance.

Which brings up another point. With this implemented, a player could decide to go solo and bring out their buddy so they aren't as lonely. Likewise they could join a party and decide to dismiss their Wyvern to respectfully adjust their strengths if the situation called for it.

Thus being so, Dragoon can be a vastly more exciting class to play as with such features. The player could name their Wyvern friend anything they desire and even have some back-story to them such as their history, where they came from or even just a nice cinema of you and your Wyvern as you two first encounter each other and allying to take on the conflict of Eorzea together!

Either way, I think it's important for the player to have all the options they can get as it would only add more to the game and in the end make for a happy customer.

What are your thoughts? Opinions? Questions, comments or concerns? I only ask to leave your ignorance at the door and talk seriously as I'm not here to waste anyone's time. So I ask of you kindly, please don't merely respond with anything along the lines of "wyverns are stupid".
Let's keep an open mind and have fun with this!

[tymora]

Doesn't fit in the lore. In this game, Dragoons are chocobo-riding, and kills anything with scales, 2 wings and more than 2 feet.

[Lucifer]

I never liked pet wyverns...

[ReapKarmah]

Doesn't fit in the lore. In this game, Dragoons are chocobo-riding, and kills anything with scales, 2 wings and more than 2 feet.

I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm tired but I really couldn't understand that at all. Dragoons are chocobo-riding?

I never liked pet wyverns...

I asked nicely to avoid making pointless posts. Would you be able to elaborate about why you wouldn't want the option?

[Holland]

I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm tired but I really couldn't understand that at all. Dragoons are chocobo-riding?

I really don't remember about Dragoon specifically, but, in terms of lore, Ishgard is on an active war against Dragonkin, their knights use chocobos to go to war. I will accept the lore can be arrange in some ways, but going from blatantly open war against Dragons to have them as pets? I don't know.

Lastly, in terms of development costs and resources, which I will not claim to know much about, but definitely sounds like balancing two classes for the cost of one, creating and adding new WS's, maybe creating two sets of armour and weapons for Dragoons with wyvern out or not, etc.

[Wataruryu]

I really don't remember about Dragoon specifically, but, in terms of lore, Ishgard is on an active war against Dragonkin, their knights use chocobos to go to war. I will accept the lore can be arrange in some ways, but going from blatantly open war against Dragons to have them as pets? I don't know.

Lastly, in terms of development costs and resources, which I will not claim to know much about, but definitely sounds like balancing two classes for the cost of one, creating and adding new WS's, maybe creating two sets of armour and weapons for Dragoons with wyvern out or not, etc.

Brought this point up in another thread, Dragoon is not the the jobs true name. It was originally called Dragon Knight, it is still named as such in Japan. The Dragoon name was used outside of Japan because of localization issues. Any actual real historical fact behind the Dragoon name, does not apply for the back story of Dragon Knight. SE has never changed the lore behind Dragon Knight ,be it old or new games in the Final fantasy series.
Yes Ishgard is at war with dragons, and they have mounted calvary dragoons (which are what real dragoons are); But has anyone stop to think about the one outstanding fact? that these guys are not SE's Dragon Knight,that they are just simple military men. Heck SE even tried to bring the Dragon Knight job name to countries outside of Japan as the games progressed. Freya Crescent is an example of this attempt her designation in Final Fantasy 9 is Dragon Knight, but I guess people where to used to the Dragoon name so SE left it alone.
Don't get get me wrong I don't care one way or the other about the wyvern. I just hate how the Dragoon(Dragon Knight) lore is getting ripped apart, and whole parts of it ignored in these threads just to twist it to fit their arguments.

[OMEGA_HACK]

I really don't remember about Dragoon specifically, but, in terms of lore, Ishgard is on an active war against Dragonkin, their knights use chocobos to go to war. I will accept the lore can be arrange in some ways, but going from blatantly open war against Dragons to have them as pets? I don't know.

Lastly, in terms of development costs and resources, which I will not claim to know much about, but definitely sounds like balancing two classes for the cost of one, creating and adding new WS's, maybe creating two sets of armour and weapons for Dragoons with wyvern out or not, etc.

Pets? Could be more like slaves, it wouldn't be the first time in fantasy that man uses Dragon to kill other Dragons. Look at the lore in Game of Thrones or the new game Skyrim (you kill Dragons but are able to call a Dragon to aid you...eventually in the story, once you get powerful enough)

Just saying, but that being said I don't a Wyvern, this run, they have a nice balance of Pet to no pet through out the series and I like it when then flip flop between the two.

[ReapKarmah]

Pets? Could be more like slaves, it wouldn't be the first time in fantasy that man uses Dragon to kill other Dragons. Look at the lore in Game of Thrones or the new game Skyrim (you kill Dragons but are able to call a Dragon to aid you...eventually in the story, once you get powerful enough)

Just saying, but that being said I don't a Wyvern, this run, they have a nice balance of Pet to no pet through out the series and I like it when then flip flop between the two.

A very reasonable and valid opinion. I feel, however, that flip-flopping between having/not a pet in this release of Final Fantasy doesn't exactly translate as a good enough reason to make the final decision in the end. Not alone at least.

I am gonna pose an idea here. Make a choice where you can do the story quest to obtain the job, and at the end you get the opurtunity to chose your allegiance. Either the dragoons of ishgard, or the wyverns of eorzea. This choice will affect your skills and if you have a pet or not. What do you guys think?

I personally love the idea of questing to obtain a pet Wyvern. This would enable us to have a larger back-story about how you two met and on what terms. Theoretically you wouldn't even lose the option to dismiss your Wyvern when needed so I'm all for it!

I would imagine that these ideas we have take time and money to implement into the game; but then again what idea is doesn't. So that shouldn't be an issue. I wonder what input a developer would have on this topic.

[Lucifer]

I asked nicely to avoid making pointless posts. Would you be able to elaborate about why you wouldn't want the option?

I dislike these fads people cling on to. A pet wyvern? Why? Why are we dealing with pets at all? Aesthetics seems to be the only thing this community cares about.

My reasons are entwined with previous Final Fantasy titles. A dragoon to me is a knight with a spear that has long range and can jump. A little pet wyvern does not fit with the vision I have of them.

It is personal opinion of course. You like them, I don't.

[Lebannen]

The first introduction of dragoon was Rikard in ff II. The lore in that game paired dragoons and wyvers together. Only problem was that all wyverns except 1 was dead.