Wanderers Minuet fail

[Renius]

I hated it when I first got it but at max lvl with SS Acc and Crit melds it is awesome. You need to get geared properly and you will see how great WM actually is.

[Gumbercules]

I really like the bard flow at 60, but do admit it took a while to get into it. IMO the "casting" thing shoulda been MCH thing and bard shoulda been left alone though. It changed the playstyle too much instead of adding in new things to the playstyle. Overall its been a gripe i have with WoW in general that xpac to xpac sometimes the playstyles change completely/dramatically and in a way this happened to bard. if they wanted to still do "stand still" things coulda done procs that happened if you used lets say 3 GCDs without moving or something, or maybe even keep WM as it is at the moment but make it an actual song so its more like a DPS CD than a completely new design to the playstyle. (ie you would still be moving around lvl 50 ish bardlike unless you are pushing damage via using WM, whilde deciding this is more beneficial than popping Foe etc)

[Tsilyi]

pop up to 3 non-global-cooldowns between them

doesn't that clip the gcd slightly? still a dps gain in some situations?

[jmanfrw]

I felt the same way, dropped BRD and started healing to level up on shorter que times never looked back. I really liked BRD too but IMHO you can't change the basic feel of a class that harshly so late in the game, I invested so much time on BRD I really loved the mobility.

In case you think it's odd I don't mind cast times on heals since it played that way from level 1, not fun loving kite to turret starting 2 levels into expac.

[Atoli]

Except for very specific situations, there is no and has never been any reason for a BRD to constantly run around or kite anything. Actually, since nearly every single monster in the game has ranges attacks, kiting isn't even a thing anyway.

In the specific situations that DO require more movement, BRD is in the lovely position to be able to turn off WM so they can keep dpsing while they go do mechanic X before turning it back on later on.

People just make this out to be a big change when really, it isn't. Pre-WM gameplay and after-WM gameplay is 99.9% the same.

[Renius]

I never understood and always found it weird whenever I saw Bards that seemed to not be able to stand still. Why do you feel is good to just run around while shooting arrows? In RL an archer does not just run around the fields shooting his bow and arrow they use stealth and cover since they are weaker than other classes with heavier gear. Play the role not the animations.

[sarahnight]

Hey when i speak about mobility, i don't mean spazzing out all over the place, i loved being able to kite something and never let it touch me... that does not feel possible post WM... i am glad some of you got used to it, but there's the rub right there. YOU HAD TO CHANGE completely the way you used to play, because of one skill that was introduced at level 52... Doesn't that feel like hey new player you get this fun fluid job, and then as you are approaching endgame, they say oh just kidding, you're now a blm with songs really, enjoy the dps up... sorry about making you change how you play, and get used to when things proc all over again.

MMM, for me like i said, i tried, i got to 60, i even geared up: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/13464793/. I just think WM was a bad design choice for Bards, at least for my bard.

[XiXiQ]

back in the old days, I mained bard and blm - the reason being, they were so different as far as speed and movement went. I didn't see much point sticking with bard after 60, it was too similar, but eventually dropped blm as well becaue it was just too frustrating for new/pug content. I found neither enjoyable. It's a pity they managed to destroy both classes for the old players. Maybe they'll will wake up to themselves in 4, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Neela]

Except for very specific situations, there is no and has never been any reason for a BRD to constantly run around or kite anything.

Well i think for the most of Brds its not the question if its really necessary -
it was just a unique thing on that cls which made it fun to play.

not everyone is 120% in endgame-progress there are casuals and roleplayers as well.

just my thoughts. ^^

[gumas]

yeah i dont get it either, i mean....

- running around jumping 360 then circling the enemy thinking like they are doing matrix stuff in the mid of D Day omaha beach moment - this is so realistic i love archer class!!!!

- no sudden movement, stay calm, focus, 1 sure hit at 1 time - totally not realistic, wtf, this archer sucks

i mean.... i never see in real life archer doing barrage while jumping around like mental or am i have been fed by propaganda bullshit from tv lol