Wanderers Minuet fail

[rakali]

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I was strongly considering maining a bard until I learned that Wanderer's Minuet existed.

I understand if some people want a ranged support with cast times. I don't understand why both bard and machinist need to mimic each other. Why not give only one of the two the cast time stance and give players a choice in playstyle?

[Avenfell]

Its always funny reading the replies on this topic, they are basically all; "well at first I hated WM, more then anything, was the worst thing ever made, but eventually I got used to it".......
Ok so that's the defense?! By that logic its the same as; "well I really liked using my right hand but it was chopped off by a bloodthirsty marauder, so now I use my left hand to eat and wipe"
That does not mean its optimal to use your left hand, WM and Enochian SUCK, stop perma-white knighting for Yoshi 24/7.

[Chevronone]

The worst part about bard is watching the Bloodletter procs and it spinning like crazy and you're stuck in a cast...

[ShaneDawn]

Its always funny reading the replies on this topic, they are basically all; "well at first I hated WM, more then anything, was the worst thing ever made, but eventually I got used to it".......
Ok so that's the defense?! By that logic its the same as; "well I really liked using my right hand but it was chopped off by a bloodthirsty marauder, so now I use my left hand to eat and wipe"
That does not mean its optimal to use your left hand, WM and Enochian SUCK, stop perma-white knighting for Yoshi 24/7.

Don't like something initially->try a new thing out->like it after all->OMG WHITE KNIGHT!!!

I agree, that the change was too sudden, but I disagree with the change being an entirely bad thing. 2.x Bard had end-game problems that needed addressing to, one way or another. That solution, albeit not the best one, turned out to be Minuet.

[DarkerOrange]

If you are running around alot on bard when not being forced to move for mechanics, you are playing it wrong.

[Renius]

I hated it when I first got it but at max lvl with SS Acc and Crit melds it is awesome. You need to get geared properly and you will see how great WM actually is.

[Gumbercules]

I really like the bard flow at 60, but do admit it took a while to get into it. IMO the "casting" thing shoulda been MCH thing and bard shoulda been left alone though. It changed the playstyle too much instead of adding in new things to the playstyle. Overall its been a gripe i have with WoW in general that xpac to xpac sometimes the playstyles change completely/dramatically and in a way this happened to bard. if they wanted to still do "stand still" things coulda done procs that happened if you used lets say 3 GCDs without moving or something, or maybe even keep WM as it is at the moment but make it an actual song so its more like a DPS CD than a completely new design to the playstyle. (ie you would still be moving around lvl 50 ish bardlike unless you are pushing damage via using WM, whilde deciding this is more beneficial than popping Foe etc)

[jmanfrw]

I felt the same way, dropped BRD and started healing to level up on shorter que times never looked back. I really liked BRD too but IMHO you can't change the basic feel of a class that harshly so late in the game, I invested so much time on BRD I really loved the mobility.

In case you think it's odd I don't mind cast times on heals since it played that way from level 1, not fun loving kite to turret starting 2 levels into expac.

[Atoli]

Except for very specific situations, there is no and has never been any reason for a BRD to constantly run around or kite anything. Actually, since nearly every single monster in the game has ranges attacks, kiting isn't even a thing anyway.

In the specific situations that DO require more movement, BRD is in the lovely position to be able to turn off WM so they can keep dpsing while they go do mechanic X before turning it back on later on.

People just make this out to be a big change when really, it isn't. Pre-WM gameplay and after-WM gameplay is 99.9% the same.

[Renius]

I never understood and always found it weird whenever I saw Bards that seemed to not be able to stand still. Why do you feel is good to just run around while shooting arrows? In RL an archer does not just run around the fields shooting his bow and arrow they use stealth and cover since they are weaker than other classes with heavier gear. Play the role not the animations.