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    RockGodOne's Avatar
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    Why do people say Monk is better than Dragoon?

    I've seen videos all over with DRGs with 2500 dps parses yet only see MNK dps parses at 2100 or less. My main is a DRG but I'm not defending them. I'm open to all jobs so I'm genuinely curious why it's almost uninanimous that MNK is superior.
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    U'tyada Tia
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    https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/13#boss=37 Here you can see the average DPS of a good player in A12S. I don't know what players you're comparing but the theoretical DPS of a monk is higher than the one of DRG by at least 100.
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    No one says MNK is better than DRG. MNK deals more damage than dragoon but that doesn't make it better. MNK deals the highest personal dps of all jobs because it has nearly no party synergy. A good MNK will deal higher dps than a good DRG, but a good DRG can give battle litany and disembowel to party members.
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lG0M_HPWg0c

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ecXXfQyls_I

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrP6E2ZT33s

    Those are what I'm seeing for DRGs. Best I've seen for MNK is 2162 which isn't even close to any of those DRGs. Am I missing something?

    Edit: @Cabalabob That's what I meant by "better". I meant everyone says they do more damage. But I can't find any MNK video that does anywhere close to the 2400+ DRGs I've linked above. So not only are they outdamaging, but also giving party support like you said.
    I'm not saying DRGs ARE better, I just want to see videos showing it. It's a bit frustrating when I see everyone say MNK way outdamages anyone easily yet I can't find videos to back it up, yet DRG videos are everywhere.
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    Last edited by RockGodOne; 12-19-2016 at 11:12 PM.

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockGodOne View Post
    Those are what I'm seeing for DRGs. Best I've seen for MNK is 2162 which isn't even close to any of those DRGs. Am I missing something?
    uh got no proof right now but as we jumped in creator savage (a9s) for the first time our mnk was on 2400-2600 on Faust with an ilvl around 255-260... now he should be even more powerful... sadly he left our static after we cleared a10s... -___-
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    Punching>jumping simple
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    You've found old videos/bad players, even the DRG videos you posted are outdated, the MNK videos were in i240 gear while the DRG ones you posted where done in i250+, nowadays players are at i270, a DRG ends up at around average of 2730 DPS in BiS and MNK at around 2840.
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AaXAkB3cpg

    This Monk did higher damager than the Dragoon you posted and she didn't use pots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kdsxUTncQY

    Another Monk who pulled 3,000k on A9S back in October.

    Just search for "Monk A12S" in Youtube. There aren't quite as many videos though, likely because Monk isn't great for raid DPS.
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    I think people have already covered the outdated videos and explained pretty well on a parse by parse comparison that monk is "better". I main a monk and between two players of equal skill a monk should output higher dps then a drg, but in a party where all players know thier jobs well then the overall dps output should be higher with a drg because of battle litany etc.

    I think the whole monk is "better" than drg statement comes from drg being HW focus job, in things like DF you tend to either get really bad drgs or ones who are incredible and no in between, it tends to be the bad ones you pull due to the number of players playing it purely because of HW and never learning it properly. Already seeing alot more bad monks since the SB announcement so it'll probably switch anyway xD all the bads are gunna jump to monk.

    That's my experience, both bring different things to the table but I imagine that's more where the statement originates from imo.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    It does come down to player knowledge of job also, as blm can out damage Monk in some cases.
    I think Drg just brings more to the table then Monk does, however it does not mean Monks should not be needed for groups as typically Single Target damage should be much higher as a Monk
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