Why do people say Monk is better than Dragoon?

[RockGodOne]

I've seen videos all over with DRGs with 2500 dps parses yet only see MNK dps parses at 2100 or less. My main is a DRG but I'm not defending them. I'm open to all jobs so I'm genuinely curious why it's almost uninanimous that MNK is superior.

[Krindor]

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/13#boss=37 Here you can see the average DPS of a good player in A12S. I don't know what players you're comparing but the theoretical DPS of a monk is higher than the one of DRG by at least 100.

[Cabalabob]

No one says MNK is better than DRG. MNK deals more damage than dragoon but that doesn't make it better. MNK deals the highest personal dps of all jobs because it has nearly no party synergy. A good MNK will deal higher dps than a good DRG, but a good DRG can give battle litany and disembowel to party members.

[RockGodOne]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lG0M_HPWg0c

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ecXXfQyls_I

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrP6E2ZT33s

Those are what I'm seeing for DRGs. Best I've seen for MNK is 2162 which isn't even close to any of those DRGs. Am I missing something?

Edit: @Cabalabob That's what I meant by "better". I meant everyone says they do more damage. But I can't find any MNK video that does anywhere close to the 2400+ DRGs I've linked above. So not only are they outdamaging, but also giving party support like you said.
I'm not saying DRGs ARE better, I just want to see videos showing it. It's a bit frustrating when I see everyone say MNK way outdamages anyone easily yet I can't find videos to back it up, yet DRG videos are everywhere.

[Clethoria]

Punching>jumping simple

[Krindor]

You've found old videos/bad players, even the DRG videos you posted are outdated, the MNK videos were in i240 gear while the DRG ones you posted where done in i250+, nowadays players are at i270, a DRG ends up at around average of 2730 DPS in BiS and MNK at around 2840.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AaXAkB3cpg

This Monk did higher damager than the Dragoon you posted and she didn't use pots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kdsxUTncQY

Another Monk who pulled 3,000k on A9S back in October.

Just search for "Monk A12S" in Youtube. There aren't quite as many videos though, likely because Monk isn't great for raid DPS.

[HiroKirito]

I think people have already covered the outdated videos and explained pretty well on a parse by parse comparison that monk is "better". I main a monk and between two players of equal skill a monk should output higher dps then a drg, but in a party where all players know thier jobs well then the overall dps output should be higher with a drg because of battle litany etc.

I think the whole monk is "better" than drg statement comes from drg being HW focus job, in things like DF you tend to either get really bad drgs or ones who are incredible and no in between, it tends to be the bad ones you pull due to the number of players playing it purely because of HW and never learning it properly. Already seeing alot more bad monks since the SB announcement so it'll probably switch anyway xD all the bads are gunna jump to monk.

That's my experience, both bring different things to the table but I imagine that's more where the statement originates from imo.

[Maero]

It does come down to player knowledge of job also, as blm can out damage Monk in some cases.
I think Drg just brings more to the table then Monk does, however it does not mean Monks should not be needed for groups as typically Single Target damage should be much higher as a Monk

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Where have you seen people claim Monk is better than DRG?

If anything, Monk is the least desirable DPS by far in 3.0. People claim it's personal damage is the highest, but the reality is a DRG is only 50-100 DPS weaker, which is almost negligible. Then you add up the added utility of battle litany and Disembowel, and you've got a job that not only is nearly neck and neck with Monk in DPS numbers, but also gives out utility to boost other's dps, something Monk cannot do.

Monk as at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to what it offer to a raid, and any serious raider you ask will tell you the best comp is one that doesn't include Monk.
To add insult to injury. Their only one useful utility, Dragon Kick, is made useless if you have a DRK in your party.