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    Just because the servers are down doesn't mean people arn't at their desk working. If the company was so charitable, they would have donated money or take their entire staff to ground zero and start the clean up or rescue..

    Shutting down servers helps so little where keeping them up and and doing other things with that revenue would have possible made more sense.

    I don't really care about the game being down, nor do I have an over whelming urge to play. In fact, it can be down for the next year while they fix all the crap for all I care. Therefore there is no selfish motive in starting this thread.

    I just thought there was more to this than saving power because to me, saving power doesn't make sense when there is a lot more that could have been done that would have had much higher impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Just because the servers are down doesn't mean people arn't at their desk working. If the company was so charitable, they would have donated money or take their entire staff to ground zero and start the clean up or rescue..

    Shutting down servers helps so little where keeping them up and and doing other things with that revenue would have possible made more sense.

    I don't really care about the game being down, nor do I have an over whelming urge to play. In fact, it can be down for the next year while they fix all the crap for all I care. Therefore there is no selfish motive in starting this thread.

    I just thought there was more to this than saving power because to me, saving power doesn't make sense when there is a lot more that could have been done that would have had much higher impact.
    /facepalm..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Just because the servers are down doesn't mean people arn't at their desk working. If the company was so charitable, they would have donated money or take their entire staff to ground zero and start the clean up or rescue..
    Personally, I think you are a troll. Money does no good if there is nothing to spend it on to help. You can't drape it on people to keep them from freezing. And there are a good deal of people across the world already donating money anyway. People actually in Japan can definitely find, and are doing, far more sacrificing things to help besides throwing out money. For all you know, the entire staff could be helping and donating what services they can.

    On top of that, you have no idea what SE's finances are, or how this might affect them in other ways besides just shutting down their servers. You don't even know who makes the financial descisions. You don't know what projects they are working on, or if they can even realistically afford to donate money. It's just as important that SE employees, which I'm sure are many in number, have a job to go back to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirrush View Post
    I certainly can't disagree that they're are possible employees who may use this downtime to take care of loved ones, however I think I need to point out that SE HQ is in tokyo, they will not be seeing any power outages so worrying about it happening is pointless.
    Mkay.. this is not only directed at you... but also the rest of the people who haven't seen the news.

    there are growing fears of mass power loss. the Japanese government is asking businesses to reduce power consumption so it can be used/saved so it can be used when and where its really needed.
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    Also for the person that mentioned 25%-50% of power loss from the 6 reactors that shut down. Can you explain where you got that from? Japan has close to 60 reactors.. 6 reactors sounds a lot less than 25%-50%.
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    You know this OP's shelfishness angers me so much I can't even think of a logical comeback so i'll keep it simple. Would you be worrying about a goddamn game had it been your friends/family stuck in the quake?? What's the point of your stupid post anyway?? Do you enjoy getting a rise out of people who actually give a damn?? I'm pretty sure at a time like this they could give a less damn about the game and their business and want their staff to focus their time and energy on helping their loved ones, mourn their losses and do whatever they can to contribute to help relieve Japan of this utterly horrible disaster. Also if anyone read the new in the last couple of hours?? There was another nuclear plant explosion. I would be surprised if they get the severs up by april at all. Anyway you really need to get a life and quit worrying about how SE runs their business and the damn game but if you can't do that then gtfo. Kudos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    You know this OP's shelfishness angers me so much I can't even think of a logical comeback so i'll keep it simple. Would you be worrying about a goddamn game had it been your friends/family stuck in the quake?? What's the point of your stupid post anyway?? Do you enjoy getting a rise out of people who actually give a damn?? I'm pretty sure at a time like this they could give a less damn about the game and their business and want their staff to focus their time and energy on helping their loved ones, mourn their losses and do whatever they can to contribute to help relieve Japan of this utterly horrible disaster. Also if anyone read the new in the last couple of hours?? There was another nuclear plant explosion. I would be surprised if they get the severs up by april at all. Anyway you really need to get a life and quit worrying about how SE runs their business and the damn game but if you can't do that then gtfo. Kudos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Also for the person that mentioned 25%-50% of power loss from the 6 reactors that shut down. Can you explain where you got that from? Japan has close to 60 reactors.. 6 reactors sounds a lot less than 25%-50%.
    5 Nuclear plants are offline in the northern region which each have 5 reactors which accounts for about 25-40% of all Japans power origination. This was said on Day 1 of the crisis on MSNBC and CNN
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    I got it from BBC news, and it was a reflection of total power loss counting knockouts from the quake, tsunami, and automatic shutdowns. In an earthquake, the reactors all automatically shut down (and reactors account for about 1/3 of Japans electric output).

    This number also accounts for shutdowns of hydro electric, etc. If I remember correctly, it was a guesstimate by international experts, and not based on any announced data from Japan, but rather a number reflecting what would be expected in a disaster of this magnitude.

    My apologies if I said or made it seem like that much power was lost from just the damaged reactors.

    As that is also an old number, I can only assume that some shutdowns have been canceled after structural checks, etc., but I do not know if any of the nuclear reactors are back online yet, given the number of aftershocks.
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    We are in fact having rolling blackouts in Japan. Most of the central 23 wards of Tokyo are not currently on the blackout list, but that is scheduled to change as TEPCO re-evaluates the situation.

    - The call to conserve power is not only coming from TEPCO, the power company. The prime minister is calling for it since there is a power deficit in eastern Japan. Weather forecast is for a cold spell starting tomorrow, and without electricity in northern Japan people are at risk of freezing.

    - If Japan has close to 60 reactors, it depends on where those reactors are. One thing many people outside the country don't realize is that western Japan is on a 60Hz system and eastern Japan is on 50Hz. This came about as multiple countries helped rebuild the country after WWII, and this means that the two halves of the country cannot support each other by sending power.

    - A third nuclear power reactor blew up this afternoon and the situation is still deteriorating.

    - Everyone is doing their part to conserve power. Whole data centers are shut down. If SE has their servers in a data center rather than on their own premises, the decision to shut down wouldn't even be theirs. Trains and other more important infrastructure are affected by the blackouts as well.

    None of my Japanese friends are complaining about the servers being offline during this crisis. Sure, we are bored, lonely, scared with the continued aftershocks... but no one is even hinting that SE has some motive other than trying to do their part to conserve power so it can be used to save lives.
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    Last edited by Mikita; 03-16-2011 at 09:38 PM. Reason: 60Hz and 50Hz numbers were reversed

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