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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    I don't know if you've ever played a Final Fantasy game before, but Red Mage is all about physical offense, black magic, and white magic. They're not just a stabby Rapier job with a fancy outfit.
    Pretty much, that's literally their entire gimmick through the series too using low tier magic spells and iirc they don't learn either -aga or aja spells depending on the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    I won't even count FFXI, I can hardly see balance in that game.
    You can't just dismiss it because you don't like it FFXI is a MMO with raise present in the Red Mage's spell list, lol. Balanced or not
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 12-21-2016 at 09:54 AM.
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
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    Yes, I know what I said but when i say only SMN due to Arcanist SE has already said it was a mistake making them both together due to levels and making changes to skills which would affect both classes so they wouldn't go that route again. Also I have played FF actually... all of them at that. Yes, I know RDM has the skill Raise in the series but that doesn't mean they have to give them that skill when you are trying to make balance in a MMO especially when Raise in XIV is actually a high level spell which not many have access to unless you are very good when it comes to conjurey. (conjurer).

    I'm pretty sure RDM isn't all that great at magic due to being able to use black magic and white magic. If we follow that philosophy of RDM having White Magic and Black Magic it won't have access to high level magic spells why do you think they have the title "Jack of all Trades, Master of None". You can give FFXI all you want but people who even played that game knows its unbalanced and they didn't even try. They just got jobs and implemented without thinking.

    Also don't be surprised RDM isn't the RDM you know I mean just look at Dark Knight. They are suppose to have a skill where they sacrifice HP but do they have it? No they don't. So just because a job from previous games had a skill doesn't mean they WILL have it in XIV.
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    Last edited by Remus; 12-21-2016 at 09:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Sounds pretty fake to me.

    RDM have the ability to raise?

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    Red Mage has the ability's of both a White Mage and a Bleack Mage and they can enchant their weapon so a RDm having raise would happen. They had it in FFXI.
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    I remember when Heavensward speculation was going on, and some japanese blog posted/leaked the "Dark Knight" moves. And they were all nonsense. And of course the real thing was released and the blog vanished.

    People do things like this when they're bored.
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    All that other stuff aside, is Yoshi-P REALLY going to just be a producer of FF14 and move on to direct other things? No....nononononooooo, he's the one who saved this game from being a disaster! We need him at the helm! Please tell me this isn't true!
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    Some stuff sounds it may be correct but the Sam, and Dancer.. still never confirmed by SE themselves and highly doubt info would have been leaked out.
    I think it is moreso the player that posted it and his dreams, lol
    Samurai will be an offensive tank, etc..
    Again until confirmed by SE themselves i find it doubtful.
    Also i imagine there will be more then one 24 man raid during the entire duration of stormblood
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    Isn't it already confirmed that the expansion will be 2 jobs instead of 3 since the time it takes to do 3 and balance them would take much longer than the 2 years between heavensward and stormblood? Thought we already got confirmation on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyashi View Post
    Isn't it already confirmed that the expansion will be 2 jobs instead of 3 since the time it takes to do 3 and balance them would take much longer than the 2 years between heavensward and stormblood? Thought we already got confirmation on this.
    Apparently Yoshi or someone has said they are gonna do 3 jobs now since Stormblood is ahead of schedule, yet whenever I ask someone to provide a citation to this claim they suddenly go quiet. So maybe there are gonna be 3 jobs now, maybe it is still only 2. I really wish we could get some clarification on this, which we may get this Friday since, ya know, Tokyo Fan Fest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Apparently Yoshi or someone has said they are gonna do 3 jobs now since Stormblood is ahead of schedule, yet whenever I ask someone to provide a citation to this claim they suddenly go quiet. So maybe there are gonna be 3 jobs now, maybe it is still only 2. I really wish we could get some clarification on this, which we may get this Friday since, ya know, Tokyo Fan Fest.
    Agreeing with Stormfur, the only confirmation I saw was them not doing another mid expansion job. So 3 is still possible per expansion release but I've yet to see any clear info on never doing 3 again.
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    The official stance was that they would never do another job like they did with Ninja, in the middle of a patch + Heavensward development with the three new jobs. It was too much too soon.

    YoshiP did say that the new jobs had something to do with Moonfire Faire. Most people assume that to mean 3 rangers = 3 jobs but who knows.
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