Do Not add Raiding at ALL for 4.0

**kalasnikov** · 12-20-2016 08:35 PM

This is a troll thread. Stop replying to let it die. This bad suggestion does not deserve attention.

**MistakeNot** · 12-20-2016 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by SonyTriple

Raiding isn't fun to do and it's the only OPTION to get the BEST GEAR AT THE MOMENT. Wish there were DIFFERENT WAYS OF getting the BEST GEAR. So it would be better to not have raiding at all during Stormblood.

If you are not raiding you don't need the best gear. Therefore there is no need to be able to obtain the best gear in other ways. Problem solved.

**Vurtney** · 12-20-2016 11:33 PM

Blizzard managed to add another way of obtaining gear that is on par with raid gear through keystone dungeons in Legion. Personally i enjoyed them alot more than the current tier of raiding and higher keystones are no means easy (lvl 10 and up)

I understand where OP is coming from with having more options but then the optional way of getting gear should not be any easier than the hardest raid content in the game at the time.

**Stormfur** · 12-20-2016 11:52 PM

I think... (I hope) he means horizontal progression.

**Daenerys_Sedai** · 12-21-2016 12:49 AM

raiding is probably the only time it ever feels like you need to coordinate your efforts (i.e., communicate). In DF dungeons, there MIGHT be a hello at the beginning and a thank you at the end, but that's it. it's otherwise mind numbingly quiet.

**Pintsized** · 12-21-2016 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ragology

Is raid gear even required outside of raid content?

This old chestnut si spouted in every MMO forum I visit .. and my reply is always the same: no it isn't so let's make 'raid gear' only usable in a RAID, outside raids 'raiders' can use the gear the rest of us can get in the content we (and they) do together.

**Moomba33** · 12-21-2016 12:53 AM

Not a raider myself but I'm against discontinuing types of content.
More endgame options would be nice but raids should still exist for those that enjoy them.

**Madepossible** · 12-21-2016 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Pintsized

This old chestnut si spouted in every MMO forum I visit .. and my reply is always the same: no it isn't so let's make 'raid gear' only usable in a RAID, outside raids 'raiders' can use the gear the rest of us can get in the content we (and they) do together.

I like this concept! O.O #naokiyoshida read.

**ErryK** · 12-21-2016 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Pintsized

This old chestnut si spouted in every MMO forum I visit .. and my reply is always the same: no it isn't so let's make 'raid gear' only usable in a RAID, outside raids 'raiders' can use the gear the rest of us can get in the content we (and they) do together.

That would defeat the point of the content. May as well make Hempen Camise/Hempen Undershirt boost VIT/MND/DEX/STR/INT by 50,000 points.

**Kosmos992k** · 12-21-2016 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Ragology

Is raid gear even required outside of raid content?

No, raid gear isn't needed for anything outside raid content. All story content and optional side content - outside of the 8-man and alliance raids, and EX Primals from the current patch cycle - can be completed in story gear. Players who do not raid, or do not want to, are absolutely NOT forced to raid because the gear is unnecessary for their continued play.

Players that enjoy raiding, need raid content to keep the game interesting for them - and supply the gear they need to progress through the raids.

Two sides of the same community, we need both.

Originally Posted by ErryK

That would defeat the point of the content. May as well make Hempen Camise/Hempen Undershirt boost VIT/MND/DEX/STR/INT by 50,000 points.

Shhhh.... don't give them any ideas like that....

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