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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    So what makes a healing style "dark" then? Neither conjury or arcanima are inherently good. We've met pretty unsavory characters using both.
    Something that involves self sacrifice (aside from MP lol), deals with voidsent, perhaps BDSM aesthetics like chains and whips.

    Or evil fairies, bound to a Scholar's will, that use offensive magic/debuffing magic... because fairies aren't quite lovely in old folklore- they're as bad as demons.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Just the idea "dark healer" has always made no sense to me. People on the dark side aren't really concerned with saving lives.
    Of course they are; intelligent evil characters are extremely interested in keeping their allies alive. Pragmatic villains tend to be the most dangerous, after all.

    Besides, as Greedalox says, dark and evil are not always the same thing, especially in modern fantasy, which tends to be a little more nuanced. We'd be much more likely to see another case of "well-intentioned characters uses dark and/or blood-themed magic for good."

    On a side note, I personally I don't want to see any dark "chemist" stuff. Prefer my healers straight-up magical rather than alchemical, but obviously some players would enjoy that theme.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Yoshi-P has said in the past that when deciding on the tank role for Heavensward, they were torn between making it a Dark Knight or a Samurai. They eventually opted to make it the Dark Knight for Heavensward.

    Video from PAX East 2015 speaking to tank role design decision.

    This doesn't mean they will be releasing Samurai in the future and this also doesn't mean if they do release Samurai it'll be a tank role, but it was considered to be a tank role at one point in time when deciding the jobs for Heavensward.
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    There is a necromancer in the ff series; however it doesn't have a clear identity it could be a DPS healer in this game. I would love 1.0 sacrifice to be there main cure it was interesting.
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    Lyra Errai
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Other than AST, DRK has my favorite aesthetic, so I would love this.
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    Rawon Special
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    necro healer could work for a "dark healer" aesthetic type

    WHM has core staple heal, SCH has fairy, AST has card, i say maybe NCR has skill than can boost your heal or even change how the heal work by using portion of his/her own HP?

    basically high risk high reward healer playstyle
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    necro healer could work for a "dark healer" aesthetic type

    WHM has core staple heal, SCH has fairy, AST has card, i say maybe NCR has skill than can boost your heal or even change how the heal work by using portion of his/her own HP?

    basically high risk high reward healer playstyle
    Remember the old version of Arcanists "sustain" that would sacrifice some of their own HP to heal their pets? I don't remember their reasoning for changing that skill but maybe it's because they planned to release a healer with self-sacrifice in mind and wanted that gameplay to be exclusive to said healer.

    Or it could be the opposite and they're really against healers hurting themselves to heal others.
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    Haydee Pasha
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    Ninja Lv 70
    It wouldn't be dark themed but I would love SE to add Chemist as a healer. You could use stacking buffs and mix them to make potions to heal with (or dps with lethal combinations!) Just imagine being a mad scientist and laughing maniacally as you throw potions and friend and foe alike!
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    Justin Satanas
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I always thought of SCH as the "dark" healer. Just look at their DPS skills. Bio and Bio II which are poisons, Miasma and Miasma II which are both based on choking darkness, Shadowflare, Ruin and Ruin II, Energy Drain, Virus. Their heals are kind of philosophy/science based as well: Physick, Adloquium, Succor, Lustrate, Indominability... The only things that really dispel the dark/anti-holy theme are the fairies and Sacred Soil.
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    Player Cleftobismal's Avatar
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    Clefto Bismal
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    I always thought of SCH as the "dark" healer. Just look at their DPS skills. Bio and Bio II which are poisons, Miasma and Miasma II which are both based on choking darkness, Shadowflare, Ruin and Ruin II, Energy Drain, Virus. Their heals are kind of philosophy/science based as well: Physick, Adloquium, Succor, Lustrate, Indominability... The only things that really dispel the dark/anti-holy theme are the fairies and Sacred Soil.
    When he says dark he means on the lines of literally dark magicks and the such. Poisons and ailments that leads to death is a dark way to go but not near the OP's point.

    The SCH's healing skills are actually latin words, all almost meaning encouragement.


    I'm sure SE can think of a "dark healer" through the Void mages. But right now we don't need anymore healers. In my opinion at-least.
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