Thread: What did Yoshi mean when he said that the combat system will change in 4.0

Originally Posted by Zied

Was it just skill pruning, or something a little more extreme?

He expressed the desire to lower the difficulty of playing classes, maybe modifying abilities/flow of how classes function to make how to optimally dps more intuitive for all classes?

I think we will get some slimming down as we will probably get 5 new abilities with HW and yoshida mentioned that they do not want to have players needing any more keybinds than we already use.

My predictions based on how WoW has functioned after a few expansions, some abilities will be overhauled, others cut. which we already knew some abilities were under review as they mentioned possibly replacing/overhauling abilities currently deemed as useless by the community such as feather step ect.

Originally Posted by Chiramu

A combat overhaul is good news for me. Something needs to be done so healing and damage numbers don't get too inflated. It would be nice also if the classes felt epic, I hope there will be rework on the class fantasy too .

with the item level based systems like WoW and what we have in ff 14 "number inflation" aka power creep is unavoidable especially when a new expansion comes out, look at 2.0 vs 3.0, at the end of ARR max item level (individual item) was i135(average i130) as the item level goes up with the levels (51-60) by the time you get to 60 the first stop on the ilevel train was 210 (if you did raiding) and after 3 raid tiers we are now at i270, if ilevel makes a similiar jump as 2.0 => 3.0 you can estimate that the first stop max ilevel would be 350.

Originally Posted by KirigayaKazuto

with the item level based systems like WoW and what we have in ff 14 "number inflation" aka power creep is unavoidable especially when a new expansion comes out.

It wouldn't be as bad if they didn't think they needed to bring out a new tier of gear with every content patch.

I would be happy if they made a way to scale dungeons up for difficulty like how WoW dungeons are now. The Mythic+ dungeons are a good way to reward great players, also Blizzard has used it for tournaments(caught a bit of University students competing for time against each other to win scholarship money).

Please bring gear back to dungeons SE!

I hope they finaly get rid of those annoying positional atks >.>
I always ignore that! I feel stupid running around the target just to do abit more damage <,<
On 1vs1 its even impossible to do it!

Originally Posted by Blueyes

I thought this was a bit ironic. At one point during the fan fest it looked like he was going to talk about addressing hotbar bloat, but then he goes and says, "we're going to take those useless actions that people don't put on their hotbar and make them useful" which... just adds to the bloat.

Right? They make me nervous whenever they mention improving useless skills. That isn't going to help button bloat. Feint is so useless, I don't even have it on my hotbar!

It's literally mostly the same rotations(some will change a bit). Useless moves made not useless.

And they're raising the skill floor, and the skill ceiling stays the same